K2 and the contracts offered to various fighters......

Missed this first time round.

This is basically what's happening now. Fighters are choosing not to accept the contracts on offer.

The ones that do, are either desperate or have no other options.

 

I feel cloud is a very good, up and coming fighter. He doesn't really reflect that amatuer petigree at times but I think he has enough to give anyone around his weight a very tough fight off of the natural attributes. Not to mention he is young and his flaws seem fixable.

His defense get's lazy at times and he doesn't react to shots. That's the only real flaw he has which can be a big one if he faces an active, accurrate puncher who can handle Clouds own power. Then we will also be able to rate that chin.

Hasn't really fought the best because the best don't like fighting the best at that weight for whatever reasons. When he does he will be a very tough. His power, speed and sharpness are good. Only thing is his discipline on Defense. A great fighter has to be offensive and defensive at the same time to be at the top level.

Cloud is very promissing IMO and time will tell how he fares against Pascal, Dawson and maybe Erdei. We will see pretty soon because I feel cloud is gonna keep stepping up his comp.

 

Its no big secret - everyone by now ought to know the K bros, as nice and professional as they are, are very stingy negotiators perhaps more so than King or Golden Boy. The comment by Byrd was accurate - they try to force you into certain situations, even if you're a top contender with some leverage. They've bult up a brand, principally in Germany and want to protect it. Its their right, but it sucks when it contributes to killing fights and we have to settle for Klitchkos fighting utterly anonymous, undeserving fighters like Chisora or Sosnowski. However, I still believe Haye got a reasonable offer.

 

these are PROMOTER expenses not paying them is wrong expecially in the hurt business:

2. If Povetkin does not appear on one of the press events organized by K2, K2 will fine him the amount of at least $250,000 dollars.

3. K2 refuses to pay for relocation expenses, hotel accommodations, meals and transportation to and from the fight location, etc.

4. K2 refuses to provide health insurance for the duration of the fight and commits Povetkin to bear all of the costs of all medical expenses in treating injuries that he may receive in the fight.

 

the promoter not giving a toss about your health

basically dump an injured guy out the fire exit

unbelievable !!!

 

Wlad is a *****.

 

Check the history of K2 vs Arena with the Vitali vs Gomez negotiations. Just like Solis Gomez was a mandatory. Arena's CEO Öner was unhappy with the terms offered by K2 and was crying foul. Bönte told him "If you don't like it, let's goto a purse bid and everyone will behappy". One day before the purse bid deadline an agreement was reached.

Fast forward to Solis. Öner once again crying foul. Bönte says "Fine, let's goto the purse bid." Now last week we hear Öner asked for the purse bid deadline to be extended because the's confident an agreement can be found.

Stop deluding yourself with the non-sense whining.

Explain to me why Lennox Lewis "only" paid a prime Shannon Briggs $1.5 million Dollars and Vitali paid the shot Briggs $1.2 million for a voluntary defense. How are the Klits greedy? Or was Lennox greedy too? Why didn't Lennox pay Briggs $4 million?

 

What type of drugs are you doing?

Tell me what keeps the fighter from going to an insurance company and getting himself a health/injury insurance. Povetkin was guaranteed a $2.2 million Dollar payday. He can't pay health insurance from that? :deal

I am appalled how little common sense have here in the forums. Every generic contractor agreement would require the contractor to arrange a health insurance coverage for himself.

 

Yup K2 contracts are ****ing rediculous. Klitchos' are ***s. And Wlad is a huge ***** that turns into a ***** when he gets hit. Oh and they're on steriods Take a pisss test pussies:hi:

 

Point taken about ad******g for inflation/purchasing power.

Briggs earned 750,000 EURO = approx. $1.2 million US Dollars. Still. This is the old, shot version who hasn't had a meaningful win in half a decade. Vs. the 26 year old version hyped by HBO who came off a fresh win vs. George Foreman.

How paying an old Briggs who was knocking out bums in 200 seat venues for $5,000 per nigth a decent enough $1.2 million Dollar retirement purse is a sign of greed is beyond me!

Source: http://www.rp-online.de/sport/mehr/boxen/Er-wollte-das-Handtuch-werfen_aid_920140.html -> "Als Schmerzensgeld erhält Briggs 750.000 Euro Kampfbörse." :deal

You are grossly mistaken about the brother's earnings. Quoting Bild.de, the brothers net around 3 million EUROS per fight after all costs.

Source: Google translate http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/mehr-...-vitali-klitschko/geldmaschine-klitschko.html -> "Davon bekommt zunächst der kämpfende Klitschko 3 Millionen." :deal

So let me get this straight. The brothers make $4 million per fight, just like Lennox made for the Briggs fight. It's OK for Lennox to pay his opponent $1.5 vs his $4 million earnings. But when the Klits offer Toney the same $1.5 million when they take home $4 million just like Lennox did it's a sign of greed.

Your entire argument doesn't hold the simplest arithmetic test.