Kalule v. Kalambay The real story

*Cue tired Rooster rant on how Kaule sucks*

 

I've never seen this fight but I find this statement very plausible. Kalambay suffered one knockout in his career against the southpaw Nunn. It looked to me like Kalambay was very troubled by Nunn being a southpaw and just got caught cold in the first round.
As far as Kalule-Kalambay, disregarding the decision, was it a good action fight?

 

Interesting I was told Kalambay was robbed, anyone else seen the fight to give their thoughts?

 

Not seen it. I'll check Boxing News when I'm home to see how they scored it. I don't recall a 'robbery'.

 

I was having a Leonard-Duran debate on their top wins when someone called it a 'robbery' (no it wasnt actually Rooster )

 

I don't know who the bizarre stories are referring to(, but i've discussed this fight a few times recently(prividing infor for those that asked about it) and wouldn't like to think it's me you're referring to.I like and rate both fighters and have no agenda to push for either one.


Anwyay, that aside and just talking scoringi don't agree with your take on the action or card at all.there was no outright dominating by either figher in this fight to my eyes(it was a fight where great defence mostly dominated) and more less every round was a competitive one.You describe it as if it was Duran vs Buchanan.

I thought Kalambay won by about five points, giving him two ten eight tounds and Kalule one for the 12th.Scored it the first time i watched it which was about a year and a half ago or so.My copy has no commentary so i wasn't sure if it was an italian or Danish Broadcast.

imo as the fight went on Kalambay neutralised Kalule's sneak lead left and jab, outcountering and outjabbing him.Kalule was also staggered several times outside of the knockdowns.Neither fighter seemed to have an issue with the others stance from a technical perspective.

As for the knocdowns we mostly agree, but the second Kalule knockdown was definitely from a clean perfect counter right hand.kalule lunged in with a jab and got caught perfectly.I'd need to watch it again as i don't recall even seeing their feet from the angle it was shown at, but this was most certainly a knockdown.

I didn't see Kalambay hurt at all in the fight, though as you say he slipped at least three or four times and almost falls right of the ring after tripping over Kalule's lead right foot in the sixth..that must be what boxrec is referring to when they say he was down in the sixth, yet the ref did not give any kind of count that i could see.

Raging bull has also seen the fight and he seemed to agree with my scoring for what's its worth.

Regarding the fights worth, it's a great fight IMO.

 

Good post mate. It seems it may have been dodgy.

 

Ofcourse in a close fight you only need 3 swing rounds to have 6 point differences between 2 people's scores.

 

I'd hasten to add i've no issues with anyone scoring differently than me, but this thread is pretty damn smug if it's referring to me and Bull's takes on the fight(we are the only two on this site i know that have seen and discussed it.Implying deliberate deception on our part.

I don't believe i've ever called it a disgraceful robbery or anthing like that either.It's a great competitive bout that imo Kalule was very lucky to get the nod in.

Not everett escalera by any means, but to me a more clean cut easier fight to score than something like zarate vs Pintor, or Rose vs Chucho Castillo.

 

:good

I thought maybe Rooster had been up to his anti-leonard(and thus kalule) trolling again.

 

Okay i found my old scorecard for this fight and just watched it again to see if i thought differently..i didn't score it again as i prefer to only score a fight once or twice if i can help it, so as to get as close to a ringside judging experience as possible.

kalambay 10 10 10 09 10 10 10 10 10 09 10 08
Kalule..... 10 09 09 10 08 10 09 09 09 10 08 10

First even round could have gone to kalule as he started very fast, had his timing down right away and landed some nice sneak lead lefts.He was outjabbed and started to get picked off for the last minute, with his legs buckled briefly.

Other than that arguable round , the only other one i would change is the last which isn't really deserving of a 10-8.kalule gets hurt and is forced backwards, but catches kalambay coming in a second or two before he slips to the floor after the resulting missed exchange.He's not hurt and even fi you give Kalule credit for putting him slightly off balance previously, i wouldn't give a ten eight for it as it was at best an even round for him prior to it.

So, give Kalule both even rounds and he still loses the fight in my eyes, especially if you score the last even or for Sumbu.The knockdowns really cost him imo.

 

Didn't Kalule scores a knockdown in the 6th? I dont see how this can be scored 10-10 if so. Like mentioned earlier, it depends if it was offical or not. I read the Boxing News report- they don't give out their score but seem to favour Kalule, just. They seem to count the knockdown in the 6th also.