Kambosos can’t be WBC champ

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Why should anyone have to face Haney to win the WBC belt, after all Haney never faced Loma to win his.

    The WBC themselves recognise Kambosos as undisputed.
     
  2. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have no issue with them putting whoever they want as champ just stop picking up your 3% sanction fees and double dipping.

    if I was Haney next week after winning I would call Sulaiman into the ring and ask him who is champion and put the belt in the bin if he claims his not champ
     
  3. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what? That’s was up to the WBC.

    mall I am getting at is they should only have one champion whoever that is. Stop the Franchise bollocks
     
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  4. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It’s crazy.
    I have no issue with who is champ. But if you are making up unwinnable belts why are you just handing it to anyone.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

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    The champion is Kambosos.
     
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  6. African Cobra

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    Well the Franchise belt was held by Teo and Loma so don’t see why Kambossos can’t hold it.
     
  7. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because when the WBC invented it they specifically said it can’t be won and is only designated.
    They have made no comment about designation him the franchise.
    Just for reference let’s say kambosos goes on a 3 fight losing streak from here. Then he will still be a WBC franchise champion according to their rules.

    likewise Teo and Loma technically are also still franchise champions. Or have I missed them update rules?
     
  8. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not according the WbBC website
     
  9. African Cobra

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    I agree it was a stupid rule and designation.
     
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  10. Puroresu_Fan

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    He did but if for example Fury had an option to fight usuyk but not before a mandatory defence of his title and dropped the belt, Fury does not remain the wbc champion.

    This has always been the way in boxing where boxers get stripped or vacate titles but since when do those fighters remain champion?

    After Floyd beat Pacman the WBO stripped Floyd of the title, was Mayweather still the champion or not?

    If he was still the champion I think it's fair to say that subsequently neither Bradley, Vargas, Manny, Horn or Crawford can be called WBO champion as none of them beat Floyd for the belt.

    Sounds ridiculous as it is just that.
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Exactly, they all got dismissed as paper titlists.

    Its like how every time the WBA is unified they make a super and a regular champ. Then back those up with an interim champ.

    WBC elevated Loma to franchise champ. They have literally just referred to Kambosos as undisputed champ.

    No one ever tries giving more credence to interim champs, I honestly don't know why you're trying to do so now.
     
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  12. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    There is literally no dispute to Kambosos' status of undisputed champion from any major sanctioning body, so that's it. No dispute=Undisputed.
     
  13. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not trying to do anything of the sort, I'm simply calling whoever has the belt the champion and not giving any credence to nonsensical titles such as franchise champion.

    A title which by the WBC in its own rules says cannot be won, its only designated which is clear as a paper titilist as can be.
     
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  14. lufcrazy

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    But it is nonsensical since Loma already had the belt, Haney never faced him for it.

    Both the Franchise and the Regular were "designated"

    The difference is, one man already held the belt and was pursuing a full unification fight, the other man wasn't.

    Calling Haney a champion is giving far too much credit.
     
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  15. MadProf

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    "I don't know why anyone wants to recognise Haney as a legitimate champion. Even the WBC themselves are calling Kambosos undisputed."

    You are wrong. WBC has Haney listed as the lightweight champ.
     
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