Kambosos can’t be WBC champ

But I'm not wrong, the tweet has been posted on this very thread. Which means you are wrong in saying that I am wrong.

 

As per Twitter post, WBC is stating Kambosos is the champ but their site says otherwise.
Regardless, you are correct and I am in error.

 

But thats not on Haney. If the champion doesn't want to face his mandatory the belt doesn't get held hostage.

Now I agree unification fights should take priority over mandatory defences but Haney wasnt the one who took the title away from Lomo the WBC did that and now they call Haney the WBC champion.

If Haney when he was mandatory declined the Lomo fight I would say he has no credibility but he didn't do that. You can't blame Haney for not beating Lomo when he never had the opportunity.

 

Actually, it is disputed by the majority of major sanctioning bodies:

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WBO | WBO Rankings - World Boxing Rankings - WBO (wboboxing.com)

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WBO: are now calling Kambosos a Unified Champion
WBO | KAMBOSOS JR. SHOCKS TEOFIMO LOPEZ TO BECOME NEW UNIFIED WBO WORLD LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION - WBO (wboboxing.com)

As you say: There is a dispute =/= Undisputed
Therefore Kambosos is unified champion and Lightweight #1, but not undisputed champion.

 

Recognizing as "WBC champion" is irrelevant because WBC champion isn't the major title for the WBC at lightweight.

WBA recognize Kambosos as their primary champion
WBO recognize Kambosos as their primary champion
IBF recognize Kambosos as their primary champion
WBC recognize Kambosos as their primrary champion

Nobody recognizes Haney as their primary champion. So no dispute.

 

Haney is the email champ. Paper belt. He barely got by Linares and I hope to see him fight top LWs before he grows out of the division. Struggled with tiny Gamboa as well. I like him but he’s underwhelming so far. Hope he lives up to the hype.

 

I wouldn't say he struggled with Gamboa so much, but he proved beyond a doubt he will never be able to seriously hurt any elite name, and double proved it against Linares. He can lay on those guys chins uninerupted for half a minute and not manage to KO them.

 

Yep, I don’t get it. He’s athletic and is a huge LW. Seeing him throw big punches and connect, I expect guys to go down but they don’t. He’s good enough to still be an effective fighter but his lack of power is puzzling to me. He looks like a beast.

 

Instead of using a diminutive term like "regular" as the wba did, they used a superlative and decided to call the real wbc belt "franchise belt' so they could collect sanctioning fees from both Lomachenko and Haney's fights.

 

Ain't Haney fault Loma decided to give up his belt than fight his mandatory!

 

He is not the WBC champ! ESPN already embarassed Lopez and excluded him from the 4 belt holders. WBC also said Lopez wasn't Wbc champ, and now Kambosa is?

 

If you click on those links, you will see that is not the case. They don't recognize Kambosos as the primary WBC champion. Unless I am missing something.
So can you provide some evidence to back up your claim?

There is no mention of Lopez being a WBC champion at all in the ratings for IBF, WBO or WBA. So I can only assume they hold the same stance for Kambosos. However, I do recognize that the WBA recognize Kambosos as being a WBC belt holder, but that is much acknowledgement as they have given him I think.

Did WBA, WBO, and IBF issue statements recognizing Kambosos as undisputed?

The franchise champion is not attached to a weight class, though. So the WBC champion is the major title at Lightweight, which Haney holds. So for me, I side with the other sanctioning bodies and Boxrec on this. If the WBC want to attach the Franchise champion to a specific weight class, then of course I will consider it their major belt for that division, much like the WBA super is considered above the regular. But not until they do that. Otherwise it is not a divisional title.

It's like saying Charlo isn't the WBC champion at middleweight because Canelo technically was made the franchise champion (whilst at middleweight) which I believe he still holds, and he could still choose to fight at 160lbs. Have they stripped Canelo of the Franchise championship?

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https://www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/index.php/ratings/ibf-ratings?view=rankings

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Therefore unless you provide some evidence, your word doesn't override their official ratings. Maybe I am wrong on this, but so far, you are just telling me it is so. That isn't enough

 

Why is there only one franchise belt in all of their rankings? How does the belt get created and which weight division is it attached to?

If it is superior why aren't they calling Canelo Franchise champion at 160lb above Charlo? Is it because he is the 168lb champion and everyone recognizes that title. He is their franchise champion is he not. He is also undisputed. So shouldn't they be calling Canelo the WBC Franchise champion at 168lbs?

DAZN doesn't recognize it either. I don't think Showtime does either. Neither does Boxrec, nor the majority of sanctioning bodies. Canelo and Taylor didn't recognize it either. Even some of the Greek and Australian media don't recognize it.
But yeah, he's probably Undisputed because reasons...

 

I don't care what they say, Finkel on boxingforum24 says he's not the champion.

 

I'm just telling your what the major stake holders in boxing believe. I base my opinion on that. What about you?

Boxrec, WBO, WBA, IBF don't recognize the belt in their rankings
DAZN, Showtime and ESPN don't recognize the belt
Canelo and Taylor don't recognize him as undisputed


Sulaiman does though, who is an extremely trust worthy character


Edit: Just to clarify, so nothing gets misunderstood. Kambosos is the man of division, the #1 unified champ. Just not undisputed