Kambosos can’t be WBC champ

exactly but no one on here likes Haney so its fun for them to just call him the email champion then to say the usual stuff when someone else doesnt fight a mandatory and gets stripped

 

Lomachenko is a nightmare matchup for Haney, that's why the wbc promoted Lomachenko to franchise champion so they could call Haney a champion without facing the actual champ.

 

Loma didn't decided that.

They elevated Loma during a conference.

 

The WBC elevated Loma to franchise champ.

Just like the WBA do with super champ. Or should we not recognise those now neither?

 

The WBA super champ and regular championship is silly but you must see the difference in the fact the WBA super title is won and lost in the ring.

The WBC franchise title is not and the WBC can call whoever they want franchise champion.

When Lopez beat Lomo he wasn't even called the franchise champion. He had to petition the WBC requesting he be made franchise champion.

Just look at this page:

https://wbcboxing.com/en/lightweight/

If the franchise title is the one that matters why the heck does the WBC put there champion as Devin Haney?

Also why is there no franchise champion in all weight classes? Who is the franchise champion at WW?

This is what the WBC call a franchise champion :

Notice its not just called someone who beats the current franchise champion. Its farcical.

 

Originally wasn't the rule that if you beat the Franchise champion then you became mandatory for the full title in a weight class, which makes it sound like beating the franchise belt is similar to beating the WBC interim champion.

WBC lightweight world title defences
Devin Haney = 3
Vasyl Lomachenko = 0
Teofimo Lopez = 0
George Kambosos = 0

WBC franchise champion defences
Devin Haney = 0
Vasyl Lomachenko = 0
Teofimo Lopez = 0
George Kambosos = 0

seems legit

 

The WBC is a ****ing shambles

 

You can't blame Haney, but you shouldn't call him a champion because he never beat the actual WBC champion. Loma was upgraded but still regarded by the WBC as their highest ranked fighter, in the sense that they want their franchise belt to have more prestige than their standard WBC title, and Haney hasn't faced any of the three who've held that title since it was implemented into the division.

The WBC consider Haney to a champion, in the same way the WBA consider Trevor Bryan to be a champion. They consider Trevor a champion, but they're number one champion is Usyk. It's a ****ing ballache but they essentially have ranked their champions, and it's obvious that Kambosos should come above Haney. The WBC also considered Teofimo undisputed, just as they now do GKJ.

 

Why they did it to charge Loma more, while keeping Loma's team and Top Rank in their good books and were able to charge Haney more sactuonong fees and satisfying Eddie Hearn and Haney's team.

That's all there is to it. Money.

 

Didn't Loma fight for the vacant belt, and then never defend it, though.

This feels similar to when Riddick Bowe dropped the WBC belt in the trash rather than fight his mandatory in Lennox Lewis. The WBC elevated Lewis to champion and notified him in writing, but not everyone was on side with the idea of Lewis being a champion at first. Though I was a kid, so I'm just speaking from the perspective as I recall was in the British media at the time.
If there was a "franchise" belt at the time and fans willing to recognize it, I imagine history might have been very different

Also it's kind of like Rummy's recent video about when was the WBO viewed as a legitimate fourth title. It might take some time for this WBC franchise belt to be recognize, but I suspect what is likely to happen, is if we get a fight between Haney and Kambosos, this Franchise champion malarkey will quietly disappear. Much like they don't both referring to Canelo as a franchise champ in their rankings any more.

i.e. if the Franchise title disappears then it never meant anything, but if it sticks, then it was also like the WBA super designation.

EDIT: who knows what to make of this...
Here is Super Fly, where Estrada is a franchise champion:
SUPER FLYWEIGHT – World Boxing Council (wbcboxing.com)

Here is Lightweight, where Kambosos is franchise champion:
LIGHTWEIGHT – World Boxing Council (wbcboxing.com)

Here is Super-middleweight, where Canelo is franchise champion:
SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT – World Boxing Council (wbcboxing.com)

I think the term is, an absolute cluster ****

 

The super title is awarded. The regular belt is then awarded.

Lomachenko was the WBC champ, at a conference they elevated him to Franchise champ.

So no, I don't see any difference.

Lopez was franchise because he beat Loma. Kambosos is franchise because he beat Lopez.

The only person not beating any WBC title holder is Haney.

 

Even lomo called the real wbc belt the one Haney holds lol

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It's like the WBA regular/super situation.

No one should ever win their belt in an email.

 

Agreed but the WBC shouldn't have made up some BS franchise title so lomo could get out of his mandatory vs Haney.

The WBC created this mess.

 

Exactly what he WBA do with the super belt.

But the difference is most people credit the super champ as the "proper" WBA claimant.

Haney won his belt on an email. Loma was the rightful holder. Loma was upgraded.

Do you think Kambosos must fight Davis to be undisputed?