Katsidis and Smith split

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  1. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On the scene. Apparently going to base himself in America now and has spoken to goldenboy.
     
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  2. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    MICHAEL Katsidis and trainer-manager Brendon Smith have reflected on their 20-year partnership, during which they scaled the heights of world boxing.

    One of Toowoomba's most successful sporting partnerships has come to an end, with Katsidis and Smith parting ways after two decades together.

    Katsidis, 31, made the decision to base himself in the United States after losing to Scotland's Ricky Burns earlier this month in London.

    He said he had been in talks with Oscar de la Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions about continuing his career in the United States.

    Katsidis began training with Smith as an 11-year-old and that partnership took the gritty boxer to the Sydney Olympics and to the WBO lightweight world title twice.

    Katsidis established himself as one of the toughest fighters in boxing under Smith.

    The pair was training for his title fight against Juan Manuel Marquez in Thailand last year when news came through that Katsidis' brother, champion jockey Stathi, had died.

    "It was one of the hardest decisions of my life," Katsidis said of splitting with Smith.

    "I first walked in to his tin shed, when it didn't even have a roof, when I was 11 years old.

    "For the best part of 20 years we've worked together and we've gone as far as we can go now," he said.

    "We've been through everything and the main thing I wanted to get out now I'm ready to comment and the main thing I would say is if anyone wants to get a world title, Brendon is the bloke (to train under)."

    Katsidis said there was no ill-will between him and Smith, and that he was excited about the next chapter of his career.

    Smith said he didn't see Katsidis' decision coming, but wished his former fighter and his family well.

    "I'm very proud in playing a major role in working with Michael in helping him achieve not only one world title but two, and helping him defend those titles in the world (boxing) capital of Vegas," Smith said.

    "What an incredible journey we had. It's been a wonderful, tough and enjoyable journey.

    "All good things do come to an end."

    http://www.thechronicle.com.au/story/2011/11/25/katsidis-looks-to-us-as-partnership-ends/
     
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  3. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Cheers mate, I believe this was the best thing to do a while back. Smith took him as far as he could. Against Ricky who boxed brilliantly i still maintain Michael was missing that spark. He also lacked direction in the corner some of the advice wasn't great really.

    Anyways hope Michael gets that spark back but probably a bit to late, we'll see.
     
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  4. ChristoDuran

    ChristoDuran Member Full Member

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    "One of Toowoomba's most successful sporting partnerships has come to an end"
    I wonder how many successful sporting partnerships there are in Toowoomba?
     
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  5. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I didn't think Michael ever won a full world title...
     
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  6. skellington

    skellington Bogbrush Full Member

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    I understand his decision, but IMO it's not worth the risk falling out with a genuine friend for a boxing career that's on the slide and will likely be over in 2 or 3 years anyway.

    Not judging Katsidis at all, he wants to carry on and get better, but we see this all the time in boxing and I believe he will regret the decision.
     
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  7. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Is it really worth it?

    I'm not sure anyone can change Katsidis at this point. What would they do differently to improve him?

    Seems a little pointless, at this stage.
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    Katsidis is pretty much done IMO. Will turn over some prospects and fringe operators IMO, but he's slipped to the point now where he's losing to Ricky Burns.
     
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  9. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Never even what I'd call a belt holder.

    Fighters don't like to admit to themselves they are on the way down.
     
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  10. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    think he had spells as interim champ3 times but never full WBO champion. Shame on the Scene
     
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  11. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    It's easier to say that it's the training that's the issue, not that you're slipping. Almost every fighter struggles with it.
     
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  12. Flea Man

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    Especially considering how he clearly worked very hard in the run-up to Burns.

    He should try 140 and see if cutting less helps him. But it's too late IMO.
     
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  13. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    He's a proud warrior and it wasn't to long ago he was flooring JMM so to him he's probably thinking a new trainer will revitalize his ailing career but sadly i agree with you guys. I'd love to see him win a world title really do.
     
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  14. roe

    roe Guest

    7 of his last 12 fights have been for the interim title
     
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  15. boxing_source

    boxing_source Active Member Full Member

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    Anne Wolfe should be his new trainer!
     
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