Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Lyoto Machida

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  1. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't thnk it's so clear for machida, at least until we see a little more of him.

    Prime Saku had one of the best single legs in MMA history, he took down guys that were very hard to take down.

    Normally I get criticized for underrating Sak, but people must just not remember how good that single leg takedown was before his knees went bad.
     
  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    My own thoughts:

    1) As mentioned before, Sakuraba was excellent with the single leg takedowns during his prime. He also had an uncanny ability to get the fight to the ground one way or another--something he managed against Crocop, briefly.

    2) Sakuraba had an extremely good chin and a great deal of determination. Machida is quite good at scoring knockdowns, but doesn't always close in to finish--especially when the opponent is on the ground. Sakuraba, conversely, was able to fight very effectively when hurt.

    3) Sakuraba is there to be countered. The wild swings are going to allow Machida to launch punches straight down the pipe.

    4) The main reason I think Sakuraba loses: Sakuraba always tried to give his audience an entertaining fight. Perhaps this had something to do with his (bad) decision to stand against Silva. Regardless, it would be suicidal against Machida, whose boring (yet highly effective) running style would force Sakuraba into a very disadvantageous fight.

    5) As already mentioned, Machida doesn't seem to know what to do in the clinch. Sure he's strong, but he's not particularly scary there compared to Silva unless you're referring to his trips. These, considering Sakuraba's game, aren't nearly as dangerous.

    6) Assuming that this is under modern rules, the knees to the head of a downed opponent and stomps to a downed opponent wouldn't be available to Machida. Not a major point, perhaps, but it makes the fight slightly safer for Sakuraba.



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    I would predict a decision win for Machida rather than a brutal knockout. Sakuraba's recovery skills and Machida's caution would prevent the sort of massive beating that Saku took against Silva from materializing. There would be several knockdowns, however.

    ...And Machida fans had better hope that Sakuraba doesn't get a hold on one of Machida's legs.
     
  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Machida is a little too big for Saku, I know Saku regularly fought & beat LHWTs despite being a natural MWT but it wore him out big time.

    H2H - Machida
    P4P - Sakuraba
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Sakuraba by submission :good
     
  5. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He completely ragdolled Tito and Evans. He's awesome in the clinch. He wants to get the fight back to the outside where hes at his best. Thats what he does.
     
  6. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    We already had this question :D