Kazuto Ioka: top 15 all time south of bantamweight already?

Yes, all three above him. They were better h2h and have better singular wins (Montiel, Mijares, and Darchinyan). Donaire is mostly due to being one of the best h2h and logging the huge win over Vic.

Straw is a very limited talent pool and the belts don’t carry much weight (no pun) unless defended indefinitely like Finito did.

 

Thanks

 

Good stuff IB.

 

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What a performance! What a TKO!

Palicte looks like the Asian Danny Jacobs in that still image.

 

Nah, not for me. He doesn’t quite make my top 10 light fly weight/straw weight combined list though he was very close to making it

All trinket collecting since then with only a few impressive scalps. Not for me if we’re combining 105, 108, 112 and 115. Not by a long, long shot.

 

He hasn’t clearly surpassed a fair few legit all-time great flyweights, combining his accomplishments I could see him above a couple of this list though....but nah, not only is it a minefield and a huge discussion I’d have to educate a fair few folks on decades and decades and decades of lower weight history and I just cannot be bothered.

 

Darchinyan would beat the living daylights out of Ioka, and his super flyweight run is more impressive than anything Ioka’s done IMO.

That’s it, I’m done. Bored as Hell already, @ChrisJS please only tag me in threads created by actual historians in the future please not this weeb love-in. Cheers.

 

Also, why can’t I put admins on ignore/block?

 

We all knew that already.

 

I was at a card with Ioka and Nietes against Palicte. My impression was that Ioka was the best and I was surprised that Nietes went on to get a win against him.

 

Top 25 not top 15

He is top 15 among fighters who debuted this millennium

 

Not exactly in an order but when I think of the best fighters from under 118 I’m thinking the following :-

Jimmy Wilde
Miguel Canto
Pascual Perez
Fidel LaBarba
Pancho Villa
Ricardo Lopez
Roman Gonzalez
Mark Johnson
Gilberto Roman
Santos Laciar
Horacio Accavallo
Yuri Arbachakov
Frankie Genaro
Benny Lynch
Jung Koo Chang
Hilario Zapata
Yuh Myung Woo
Masao Ohba
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Chartchai Chionoi
Peter Kane
Pone Kingpetch
Betulio Gonzalez
Khaosai Galaxy
Hiroyuki Ebihara
Jiro Watanabe
Donnie Nietes
Nonito Donaire

Based just on accomplishments below 118. I think people would be surprised to see how deep the quality is down there.

 

Midget Wolgast as well.

 

Yeah, I’m sure there’s others too. Like I said it’s very stacked down there.