Kazuto Ioka vs. Juan Francisco Estrada Romero

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Banzai/Golden Boy or El Gallo?

Poll closed Dec 31, 2023.

  1. Ioka on points

    4 vote(s)
    44.4%

  2. Ioka by stopage

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. Estrada on points

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%

  5. Estrada by stoppage

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    WBA (Ioka's first defense) and WBC (Estrada's first defense) super flyweight title unification. Targeted for New Year's Eve.

    note: Akihiro Honda of Teiken Promotions and Yusuke Ninomiya of Shisei Boxing are still negotiating terms but remain optimistic as this is the most desired match-up for both sides. If the negotiations stall too long, the backup plan is for Estrada to face Junto Nakatani (with Ioka then needing to wait on the sidelines while the winner of that match faces the winner of Fernando Daniel Martínez vs. Kōsei Tanaka for the IBF strap.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Interestingly, they've zero common opponents despite having faced everybody who's everybody in the fly range between them.
     
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  3. Farl Crampton

    Farl Crampton New Member Full Member

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    Fan of both fighters and two Hall of Fame level talents, rooting for Ioka in this one but feel like Estrada would win a close decision. Fantastic matchup and hope it happens. Junto Nakatani beats either of them at this point though!
     
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  4. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lovely stuff if it happens.
     
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  5. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excited to see this fight finally happen if it is really confirmed. It’s been long overdue for these 2 to meet in the ring. If Ioka is able to nullify Estrada’s output with his cute defense and more accurate counters like he did against Franco then he might have a chance. Gallo is on a different level from Franco though, it’s a question on how war torn he is now.
     
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  6. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This a colossal bout. A dream match right after Ioka-Gonzales.

    Ioka is coming off of the revenge againts both Nietes and Franco, and Estrada closed the razor close trilogy against Chocolatito. Both mature, but marginally on the good side of the thirties.

    As far as accomplishments, pedigree, and history goes, this is the best fight produced this year, Crawford-Spence and Inoue-Fulton included.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It's meant to, and in Timeline B where it doesn't we still end up getting:

    • Estrada vs. Nakatani
    • Martínez vs. Tanaka
    • Estrada/Nakatani vs. Martínez/Tanaka
    • Ioka vs. whoever the hell Kazuto feels like going after...Chocolatito? Inoue? World is his oyster really.
     
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  8. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ioka has several great options. 115 is still a stacked division. Imagine if he actually manages to face everyone and perhaps clean out that division. It’s an unlikely scenario but certainly a huge achievement that could rival with Naoya Inoue.
     
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  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Choco-Junto would be great in the co-feature.
     
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  10. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I don't trust JFE like AT ALL.

    He seems to be only be interested in running it back with Chocolatito. He's called out Inoue, but never seemed serious and he hasn't mentioned Ioka or Nakatani in the past.
     
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  11. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    You want Choco to die?

    :lol:
     
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  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did he look like a corpse in beating P4P-er Estrada? He's still at least A- Chocolatito, like a late Pac, dangerous to any up and comer and a HUGE step-up for Junto who could also gain MONUMENTAL experience & legacy points.

    Logical passing of the torch fight where the old dog could still bite and where Choco, beloved in Japan, gets extremely handsomely paid. Probably career top 3 cash. Win-Win.
     
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  13. rawjones

    rawjones War ioka Full Member

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    A real dream match. Also seems like we could get undisputed at superfly by the end of next year
     
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  14. Ted Spoon

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    Like the song goes, everyone's a winner babe.
     
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  15. lufcrazy

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    Nice
     
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