Keep your heads up, Pacquiao fans...

the *******s are on leave because they don't like being duped by emmanuel

all his "improvements" was based in improving his matchmaking and very little actual improvement in skills

 

keep you mouth shut ... you will scare FMJ again

 

He has improved. Go watch his first fight with marquez and compare it the latest one. JMM just has his number. You can tweak and improve a fighters style but you cant change it completely.

And this is a good thread. Boxing fans are fickle. People act like getting a close decision against Marquez is the worst thing in the world. This is the same Pac who's been champ in 8 divisions and has dominated 147 for the past 3 years. Put him in with anybody in his weight class and he still destroys them. Floyd is the only guy who has a chance.

 

If Pacquiao would have his finest hour against Mayweather, then he should fight him next. For some strange reason though, Pac prefers to fight Marquez again next.

 

I always knew JMM was Pac’s bogeyman, and argued tirelessly with people on this board who said Pac would steamroll him. So him giving Pac another tough fight, was not a surprise to me.

But, what was a shocking sight to see, was how useless Pacquiao was on the night. Maybe Nacho was right when he said this increasingly reserved, boxer-puncher version of Pacquiao would be easier to deal with than that old Tasmanian devil. But, seeing him have absolutely no answer to someone who takes subtle steps back and moves laterally, is a massive cause for concern. This isn’t just a JMM thing. Mosley showed us it, too. Only this time, we had a guy who was willing to make him pay after neutralizing him.

A bad night? Maybe. I hope you’re right. But I think it’s more than that.

 

He counters better, but Roach got lulled into thinking Pac had improved so much that Pac could out-box and out-dazzle Marquez with footwork and counters. That was so so wrong, though. Tony, why did you ever turn your back on Pac? I'm a bigger Marquez fan, which is why I'm a little disappointed at the result. However, Pac's still one of my favorite fighters and I'll root for him against Floyd. This does damage his stock and chances against Floyd even if you still think he wins you must acknowledge this. It isn't like Floyd isn't capable of implementing the same blueprint Marquez used in this third fight. I know the difference in dynamics to their difference and countering, but you have to think Floyd controls him after this last fight, regardless of who you support. At the end of the day, Pac just doesn't have a good enough inside game to capitalize on the biggest deficiency of a counter-puncher. Once he loses control of the mid to long range, he's basically out of the fight.

 

Top-notch post. I think Nacho and Marquez were right on the money about that. If you noticed, Marquez looked most uncomfortable when Pac started getting a little bit more desperate in those last 2 rounds (Which he probably won) than any other part of the fight.

 

Well, Arum came out today and said Manny prefers to fight Marquez again next instead of Mayweather. They want to do it in April or June and say the Mayweather fight is possible after that. Hopefully, he's just posturing.

 

they had two close fights the first time

Juan has declined in the time between the 2nd fight and the 3rd fight.

If emmanuel has "improved", he should have actually done better against Juan in fight 3 than he did in fight 2. That is not what happened though.

The fight was also contested at a weight that favors emmanuel more than it does Juan.

 

Same here, I rewatched it and enjoyed the fight, and watched it again to score, I could see some of the rounds going to Pac that I originally scored for JMM so it wasn't a blatant robbery.

What I DON'T condone is the path to Pac-JMM 4, which although I don't mind, I don't want it to get in the way of the Floyd fight which Arum seems keen on doing.

Also, I think they should face the facts and put some more work on the skills department because that "leg" cramp crap is getting old and you don't fix what's broken by fixing something that's isn't. I think Pac started getting his legs weirded out when Juan was putting weird pivoting in the "zone" and also of note, Pac said his legs were starting to get crappy by round 5 or so, well the end of round 4 was when Juan landed a huge blow to his chin. I wonder if they ever considered THAT being the effect on his legs.

 

great post :deal