Keeping Paquiao at the top of the P4P list to save Supper Fight

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  1. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Yes, and thatman is that man.
     
  2. Thatman

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    This is your rebuttal?:rofl:rofl

    *****s only know Floyd. I know all era's and all divisions. I have forgotten more about the sport than you'll ever know.
     
  3. Thatman

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    I am not "blindly" supporting anything. My entire opinion is based on the numbers. I don't use what a guy says or doesn't say.

    Everything is based on the numbers when it comes to making this fight.

    59/41 and Manny can get it. Manny's stock is falling.
     
  4. Gander Tasco

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    Floyds not asking for 59/41 ****.
     
  5. box247

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    That's one way to look at it there are other stats that can be applied to. As there are a number of statistical methods that can be used. You can also throw in gate sales.

    The result will be they both need each other to make such a fight which has lost much of it's appeal to the boxing fan. But may not have to the casual fans.

    There is a strong case for anything from a 60-40 to a 50-50 split.

    Before this do they want the fight. Can they agree on everything with this being the last hurdle. Doesn't seem that way.
     
  6. Thatman

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    Hi puga...

    He is offering a $40 million dollar flat fee. He is willing to give up all the guarantee money for all of the "commission."

    $40 million of $105 million (what the fighters will make in the end TOTAL) IS $42 million.

    Arum didn't wanna get involved to negotiate it though. Pac could have gotten himself another $2 million if he would have negotiated. Instead he said 50/50.
     
  7. Thatman

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    I dissagree. I mean Floyd just did $94 million in a fight where Manny just did $35 million. Not to mention that if you bring other stats into it such as paydays, Floyd is making $40-$45 million for a fight these days while Manny is making $20-$25 million.
     
  8. Gander Tasco

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    Your assuming the total is going to be 105 , how'd you even come up with that? You have no idea how much it would be. In reality it could be / could have been ****ing massive . He's trying to lowball Pac and you know it. He also wants Top Rank completely out of the picture which is never going to happen so you can say goodbye to the fight right there.


    In reality , if Floyd just had enough balls and less greed he could have made this fight easily but he doesnt. He doesnt get like you dont get that he needs Pacquiao to make that massive payday in the first place. You and your little math just shows how much of a stan you are worrying about somebodys income who you never met before. People just want to see the fight , and it is possible to set aside ego and greed to make it happen.
     
  9. box247

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    I wouldn't use paydays as those are based on his contract with TR. Not how much revenue he generates. If he's getting ripped off thats his issue. But if he's not making sales then those are the stats to be used
     
  10. Thatman

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    I came up with it based on Oscar and Floyd splitting $79 million at 2.4 million buys.

    The fight will be massive your right...Probably kills the old record of $138 million in revenue and does around $180-$200 million.

    You'll notice that Oscar and Floyd took $45.7 million of that $79 million for revenue or approx 1/3 of the revenue.

    So at $195 million and Pac getting his $40 million, this would leave about $65 million on the table to split.

    Do your homework, don't just rant on about **** you know nothing about.

    You stupid idiot, I give a **** about what they make, I'm only providing the info as to what is fair, economically. IF THEY CAN MAKE IT AT 50/50 THEN MAKE THE FIGHT AT 50/50 but I'm not going to ignore the FACT that one fighter gives more economical value to the fight.

    See, you don't even see where I'm coming from puga. You just rant on about nothing cuz your a little ******* ***** that doesn't know much about the sport of boxing.

    Deal with the numbers and shut the **** up and quit bitching about your boy not bringing as much economical value to the fight.:deal
     
  11. Thatman

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    What I'm saying is this.

    Why should Floyd only make about $7 million more for a fight with Manny, where Manny would more than $27 million more than his highest payday? Floyd is the bigger money maker and should be making just as much more fighting Manny that Manny is making for Floyd.:think
     
  12. Thatman

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    G2G though. Have work to do. Answer the questions and explain w/out insult and I'll try to get back to ya.