Keeping your body moving

Yes, I have seen Pernell Whittaker, and the reason he is so good is not because of his superb lateral movement, busy workrate, great jab, excellent timing, wicked body punching, top class radar and wonderful footwork. It was because he moved when he had to?

If you watch Whittaker he's always got a natural flow, his right arm is normally held out in front almost dangling but moving side to side. By moving, I dont mean hes moving his head or his feet to avoid something hes just keeping motion.

And Mayweather and Toney standing still in fights. They hardly ever do it and when they do its sort of a showboat move, and opponents normally get surprised when they do it, as it is so unnatural for a boxer. Theres guys at my gym who stop moving to sort of draw you in, most people dont know what to do. I just pop a hard jab and 100% of teh time it will land as they wont be quick enough to get out of thne way because they was motionless, however when they keep their natural movement they can slip my shots fairly easily.

Also its easier to get knocked down moving is it? Care to offer any examples. I'd say its easier to get knocked out if you stayed rigid and motionless. Someone like Lamotta had a great chin and always kept a bodily current going through them.

You dont understand movement here, its not movement round the ring or whatever. Its just motion.

 

Well obviously it depends for which level pro or amateur. I guess your aiming for amateur, movement is very useful but not to much, it tires u out, can easily get knocked out. Movement is good but 'bouncing' surely isnt.. take bouncing of your head, its good to stay on your toes sometimes but only for foot movement. Dont always stay on your toes cause it does get tiring even though its just 3 rounds.

 

Honestly, it depends.

It's about your comfort level and often about your style and mindset as well.

The bottom line is you want to do what works for you as history has shown multiple styles can be successful. Just be apt to adapt when necessary...

At the same time know where your heart is in this, and make sure it's in the right place.

In with that, what I'm referrin to is God, even if I am a hypocrite...My destiny is not mine to define...

 

Always moving something, easier to react. Eyes have a 1/6 of a second memory, you are reacting to something thats happened, its judging the move before that is important.

 

Stand still so that I can hit you!

 

Go watch Whitaker again. Boxing is moving when you have to, all those things you're talking about are moving when you have to. The more skilled you are the less you have to move. If you are moving anything it has to have a purpose.

 

As a side note, all three of those guys are incredibly physically gifted, are you sure the same rules apply to them that apply to us?

Good explanation :good

Think about a bench press. You can do more when you do a normal bench press than if you started the bar from the down position.

You can jump higher when you dip down first.

You can get out of a chair easier when you use momentum. Try just standing up slow without using your arms.


The motion is for the sake of motion. You want motion because it speeds your reaction time, thus increasing your quickness, your speed, and your win. From a static position you need to recognize the opportunity, decide to move/throw, retract, explode. Movement removes the need to retract, which is good because it speeds you up and disguises your intentions.

 

Being in constant, loose movement works for a lot of people who want to engage in fluid upper-body movement. You don't have to, but it's best not to be stiff. Personally I find too much can tire you out, but staying off center and shifting your position slightly consistently helps move more dramatically in the moment you have to since you are already engaging those muscles, instead of commanding them just when a punch is flying at you with intent.

 

With the bench press it should make no difference if you start from the concentric phase if you're doing it properly.
I understand what you're talking about, the stretch shortening cycle. You don't need a counter movement for every punch. Generally a more skilled fighter is going to throw shorter, sharper punches. Straight out and timed correctly. A good fighter doesn't need to retract, he sees what's happening and beats his opponent to the punch.
I think we're talking about different styles and skillsets here, if both fighters aren't particularly skilled the movement you're talking about would be a good thing for the faster and longer fighter when fighting on the outside.
I don't think the three guys I mentioned are that physically gifted, the thing that separates them is their vision, the way they are relaxed and not moving much due to their well developed skills/confidence. If you see a guy moving for no reason the first thing you know is that they're lacking in confidence.

 

I'm not even talking about winding up. more of a subconscious backward twitch. All fighters do it. there's nobody who truly hits from where his hand is consistently. It adds speed/force to the punch and is almost necessary. Could be with footwork as well. Soccer defenders are taught to keep their feet moving when funneling an attacker so they can change direction/speed easier and more suddenly.

 

This sentance just confuses me, your just talking crap now. I dont understand you, you are now saying 'constant motion' is moving when you have to, yet the skilled fighters dont move.

 

You can George Groves what lefty’s saying.

Fighting without ever moving = Constantly moving.



The trick is to use the matricies.

 

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I wasn't referring to constant motion, I was referring to the attributes you mentioned. Having a good jab for example is throwing when you have to, not just throwing it at air for the hell of it (throwing at nothing can be a good thing to set a trap or to provide a stimulus to slow your opponents reaction to the second stimulus). Do you get where I'm going with that?

 

The more you move the harder it is for the opponent to know where to hit, i practice bobbing and weaving so much that my stance looks like a training drill lol