Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Paranoid Android, Jul 10, 2019.
The king is dead... Long live the king!
Thurman can't even be the washed-up Pacman
spence would give him a margarito type pounding, without taking the margarito damage to himself. it would retire pac. pacs reaching in will get him hurt against spence or crawford, his legs cant pull it off anymore. he will beat thurman, though.
Given how cautiously he fought a stationary Mikey who was barely throwing back, there is no way Pac's speed and footwork doesn't flummox Spence. I believe Pacquiao can hurt him, too. Pacquiao by UD in a war.
he fought him that way for a reason, to a shutout. spence has better footwork than manny, i said this before the garcia fight, and is clearly evident during the fight, and still people dont understand what theyre seeing.
pac and manny are 2 of my favorites, so ive studied them and watch to see what theyve gained or lost, and ive been pretty accurate regarding those 2. spence beats him in a tough to watch fight.
By the time Pac was 31 he was a 6 weight division champ and had jmm, mab, Morales on his record. Good luck to Thurman playing catch up.
Thurman is over rated and all this talk is playing into Pac’s hands
I think Pac - Spence 50/50.
This better footwork than Pac is BS, Pac has one of the best footworks in the game. Different style but it’s a style that suits him and always shocked all his opponents at how he’s able to close or gain distance instantly and create angles. Those angles are created with footwork.
It’s also funny that Pac is known at this aggressor, when he’s actually the most dangerous on the backfoot. Look at his fight with david Diaz, odlh, cotto, Margarito, Rios, Hatton - basically whenever opponents come to him trying to use their size they get fked because as Floyd said “Pac sets traps”.
Basically manny feints, attacks to get fights to commit and then he counters explosively, which is much easier to do when the opponent is walking to you.
That’s why Crawford would be by far tougher, and if I had to bet on Pac Spence, I’d pick Pac.
And before you bring up horn, yes one can beat Pac pressing forward if you’re allowed to butt, trip, headlock, elbow, be a damm MW, and have the judges and ref on your side.
Using horns judges, Floyd would have multiple losses (lose any fight he didn’t win 10-2) and so would Canelo.
here is pacs last fight, show me an example of this footwork that is better than spences. show me what you see and i will show you what i see and why spence beats him. then we can see who makes more sense, and maybe eventually, who was right.
Like Mikey said, he and Spence are very much alike. Very basic, but very good at being basic. Spence didn't carry Mikey. Spence just couldn't do anything to Mikey because he's not dynamic and creative. If Mikey fought Pac like he did Spence, 100% Mikey gets stopped. Mikey wouldn't be able to defend against Pac because of the angles, punch selection, and speed.
i think pac and mikey have similar level footwork. pacs is faster, and busier, but is geared towards use offensively, as an action. mikeys is slower, but more well rounded, and has better transitioning between offense and defense, but is geared towards use defensively, as a reaction. neither one can compete with spences foot speed and effectiveness if he forces you to the weak side of your footwork, which his team is smart enough to do.
show me in the video above, what you think pac will be doing to spence, and i will tell you what i see happening in that situation.
Thurman has always been a fraud.
I expect him at heavy in a few years then.
The Margarito beating was my Manny Prayer come to fruition.
Living through the era of a foul mouth bigot baiting-Hopkins, the narcissism of Floyd, the ignorant arrogance of Broner makes me think Thurman's trash talk is minor.