kell brook interview on ringside

I would love to see same day weigh ins come back but never gonna happen. 2/3 best fighters in the world enter the ring at the weight that weigh in, but don't get any extra credit for it.

 

Personally I think too much is made about the issue of "weight" If a guy makes a weight his opponent has made as far as I'm concerned thats were it stops.

Fighters in weight classes that do not correspond to there genetics are only harming themselves, size is nothing, physical dimensions are nothing, being seasoned at optimum weight and enhancing performance is everything.

Its biology, if you make weight 24 hours before a fight and you done it the healthy way, you should be there or there a bouts on fight night, discarding rehydration.

 

Its a nice theory, but I would look at fighters like JC Chavez Jnr, Saul Alvarez, Paul Williams and say it clearly does make a difference.

 

In my view Paul Williams has never been over sized in any weight class he's fought at, by that I mean severe methodology (losing weight) which in turn effects performance in a negative way.

Chavez Jr is an anomaly, there is a big question mark over him with regard to PEDs, aside from that what has he done so special that makes him a stand out in this regard. Bomb out Andy Lee? Chavez Jr makes 160 like everybody else, if he wants to cut 20 lb's over 36 hours to achieve that then thats his bad! opponents have no right what so ever to moan about it. If anything it would fill me with confidence if I was fighting him.

As long as what guys are doing to re-hydrate is legal then there is no room what so ever for complaint. You can only have complaint if weight gets missed.

 

You have contradicted yourself there mate. Say its ok because if they do it right fighters weight won't change. But we know most fighters go up at least half a stone the next day.

 

Rob,

Have you ever made weight for anything? have you ever had a training camp to make a particular weight for anything?

I have not contradicted myself because I have experienced making weight, it goes hand in hand with fighting mate! If you get the diet right and make weight over a prolonged period of say for arguments sake 8 weeks, your weight post weigh-in will not be far off your weight pre-weigh in, where did I say it wouldn't change? of course it will change, if you have a **** you lose 3 lbs!

Oversized athletes in boxing are at a disadvantage, because they will not perform to their optimum. If a guy makes weight then its fair game, he bears the responsibility of fighting "weight drained" as its called. Therefore he puts himself at risk.

 

Have you ever made weight with the help of elite scientists and nutritionists? These guys can cut serious weight in a short space of time and put it back on next day without much risk.

You are completely underestimating things based on your own experience. Julio Cesar Chavez is far from an anomaly. Andre Ward, Sergio Martnez, Austin Trout, Saul Alvarez, Lucas Matthysse, Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson, Amir Khan, Adrian Broner, Ricky Burns, Nonito Donaire. These are some of the elite fighters in the sport and they will have all weights close to 10lbs over the weight limit on fight night.

 

Where did I say they wouldn't?

Not a single name mentioned above bears any resemblance to my point, none of the above fighters have ever had a history of problems making weight. It doesn't matter what methods you use to rehydrate your body as best as you or your scientific team conjure up! if you are defying your genetic make up by fighting in a weight class your body is not designed for, that will become apparent and in a fight lasting anything over 4 rounds performance will begin to be effected immensely.

You use the word science, its not science its biological certainty!

 

What was my original point mate?

 

Rob is correct. Weight cutting is a science itself nowadays. Fighters who know what they are doing can cut 10-20lbs of water weight and put most of it back on by fight time. Personally I would look to change this as we are going to see disastrous results soon. We are fortunate that boxers do not cut anywhere near as much weight as some Mixed Martial Artists as I think it is a joke when your American former wrestler fights the Japanese guy who doesn't even know the concept of cutting wait.

 

So before the 1st fight he looked ripped as hell training his ass off but now where led to believe for the rescheduled fight he didnt train and was out on the **** everynight.

Yeah right, that makes plenty of sense.

 

Also as BJ Penn says If you were to fight someone to tyhe death to defend your family honour, would you stop drinking water and live in the sauna 24-48 before? (paraphrased)

I know cutting wait is different nowadays with people like MikeDolce who has it down to an art for his fighters but I just don't see how this is good for boxing.

 

Do not use logic here mate or the keyboard warriors will get you! :fire

 

Tell to that Akiyama mate, from 205 to 170 in 3 years :deal

Look, if a fighter makes weight by punishing his body, that fighter will bear the consequence of that come fight night, if a fighter is walking out of his house on the morning of the weigh in "ON WEIGHT" having eaten a full breakfast and drinking 3L of water, he needs to think about dropping a weight class!

Cutting weight does more harm than good, notice I used the term cutting not losing.

 

Mike Dolce's guys do not cut, they stick to a regimented diet for a sustained period of 6-8 weeks, Dolce prepares everything for them and lives in with them and will only do one fighter in a particular camp per time.

Its called losing weight not cutting weight, his guys get on the scales having eaten a full breakfast and not skipped a single meal during camp, and always fully hydrated, a simple walk in a sauna suit 35 mins before weighing is normally all that is required, providing he's not trying to squeeze Quinton Jackson down 155!

Boxing can learn from this guy! and he's not the only dietitian utilising these type of methods, but he seems to be the first to publicly pave the way.