Kell Brook removed from WBC rankings after choosing not to enrol for VADA testing

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Canelo as the face of boxing is leading by example. After having been a victim of Mexico's poor food regulation the Mexican star enrolled in VADA's 365 program, shortly after Golovkin chose to follow the face of boxing's lead and also enrolled in VADA's 365 program. Big props to both men.

    Boxing needs to require year round testing.
     
  2. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Canelo was publicly humiliated and shamed into enrolling w/ VADA. Canelo avoided VADA testing for years. See the Liam Smith and Austin Trout fights.
     
  3. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he was leading by example, he'd have avoided the tainted beef based on prior knowledge of the beef there, and have already been in the VADA clean boxer program, or the 365 program before any of this even began.

    What he's doing is called Public relations image restoration. That's a thing. And you can bet after Oscar's **** scandals and sex fetish outings, he knows a thing or two about image restoration.

    You can keep saying Golovkin 'followed', but he's been in the Vada program longer than Canelo has. You can spin it to you dressing all you want.

    I do agree with your last statement. To add, any fighter getting a title shot SHOULD be in a year round testing program.
     
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  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol you know that,no surprise whatsoever.i often get stick for calling Kell Brook re PEDs but truth is I’m a fan of his but I don’t need to pretend he’s clean to enjoy watching him.
    You know how Canelo always copped stick for cutting sheds loads of weight and rehydrating to have an advantage on fight night,well I always thought Kell Brook was on a par with Canelo for doing that,against Spence where he made 147 he looked shredded.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol that Liam Smith fight was so dodgy and not on Liam Smiths side since making 154lbs for him wasn’t the problem it was for Canelo.
    The one that doesn’t get mentioned though is the Chavez Jnr fight,that fight was f***** up with another catch weight stipulation in place,threats of fining Chavez a million dollars for every pound he missed which meant that for months leading up to that fIght Chavez had to use PEDs to make that weight which for him was like prisoner of war tackle.

    Quite simply the only testing agency that does catch folk is VADA so no excuses,if they ain’t being used for favour of another testing agency it’s quite clear to me why.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol only in boxing eh?i can’t pretend to understand it but the whole thing stinks and quite why the fighters should have to pay for it is beyond me lol.
     
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  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Canelo was enrolled with VADA for his fight against Golovkin, you are aware of that, right? And Canelo was enrolled with USADA for his fight against Austin Trout, you do realize this?

    I give Canelo HUGE props for doing what no other fighter has been willing to do to prove he is a clean fighter, and I give him even bigger props for being an example and enrolling in VADA's 365 program.
     
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  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Huh? The athletes pay for everything one way or another. Its the way it is in every sport. Where the eff does the money come from otherwise? If you wanna cry about it, cry over the NCAA. They be raking in billions and the athletes get jack! The problem in boxing is that they don't have a singular sanctioning body to govern the silly sport so costs like anti-doping have to be footed by the individual instead of being spread out among a fighters union or a % percentage of profits.

    The real travesty here is the belt system. This is really why there is no central governing body, as that would kill the belts. Who needs belts anymore when there is one only champion?
     
  9. IsaL

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    Its a shame he was a victim of Mexico's food crisis, and he should have been more careful and conscious of the risks, but again eating the tainted meat gave him ZERO benefits.
    The values were much too small to have any significance.

    What he is doing may be called public relations, but those public relations are indeed REAL and have cleared his name. Hair follicle test, VADA's 365 program. Only his harshest haters and the GGGoons are in denial about the evidence that sides with Canelo being clean.

    Both Canelo and GGG have been tested through VADA for previous fights, including the first fight with each other under the WBC CBP. BUT it as CANELO who signed up for VADA's 365/7/24 program, only for GGG to copy (which is great IMO). These are just facts Lance, deal with them.
     
  10. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Yes, it's a shame that Canelo is a poor working class Mexican who lives on 1000 pesos a month and can afford nothing but local tainted meat.
     
  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    The tainted meat crisis isn't restricted to poor areas in Mexico.

    Get yer facts straight.
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again, you say he copied. You keep trying to allude that 3G only did because Canelo had. Yet 3G has been w/ a proponent of the program for years, with him and Sanchez pushing for it for several fights now, even paying for it out of their own pockets.

    Canelo was highly criticized for not enrolling sooner. And then only did AFTER this whole scandal. You can't try to push him as being the leader of clean testing or anything when he only did it AFTER getting caught w/ PED in his system.

    This is how incredibly disingenuous you are all too often Isal.
     
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  13. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Clenelo cycles. As evidence by his taking FOREVER to sign the dotted line for the rematch. And when he did, he got clipped.

    Clenelo ducked VADA to go with USADA (LMAO). There's only one reason for ducking VADA (see JMM, Mayweather).

    Clenelo ducked VADA in the Liam Smith fight.

    :deal:
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Boxers have to unfortunately pay for it because of the nature of the sport. Boxing has no unified body looking out for the interest of the sport in anyway. Sure organisations like FIFA and the IOC, the IAAF etc are all in it to make money but it benefits them to keep the image of their sport relatively clean and so they invest in anti-doping to some degree, not enough but enough for appearances.

    Boxing is nothing like that, it's all a bunch of money grabbing, self serving organisations all working against each other more often than not and so boxers get screwed by having to pay for their own testing.
     
  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Canelo was enrolled with VADA between July 2017-Sept. 2017 and again in February 2018. Guess what Lance, GGG was also enrolled with VADA between July 2017-Sept. 2017 and again in February 2018. Exactly like Canelo.

    Canelo recently decided to enroll in VADA 365 program. GGG decided soon after to also enroll in VADA's 365 program.

    Canelo in that sense is a leader.

    When have you heard a fighter who tested dirty submit to a HFT and then enroll almost immediately for VADA's most stringent program? NEVER, and whether PR or not it is GREAT for boxing. I am very happy GGG also followed suit. Why does that bother you?