Kell Brook: UK training methods are "behind the times"

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  1. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    @ 02:10 mark, Kell Brook pretty much admits that American training methods are superior to UK

    Now that there's a new trend of UK fighters getting Knocked out by jabs when trying to step up in class (Kell, Yarde, Dubious) can we agree that American trainers, on the average, are superior. Is this why UK's best fighter, Lennox Lewis, learned how to fight in the Kronk gym in Detroit?

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  2. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not for the heavyweights :lol:
     
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  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    What ive said for years, well kell could have easily moved to train in the usa but didnt.
     
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  4. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    thats when the men seperate the boys, the UK always leads :D
     
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  5. bw51

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    In the fight between Robinson and Josh Kelly, Kelly as the younger fighter had more speed and agility, but Robinson just punished him with fundamentals, straight jabs and right hands. As the slower fighter, Robinson kept throwing straight shots to the body and pushed him back.
    Josh kelly showed lack of boxing IQ but continued to show boat. If not for some of the flashy punches, he would have lost instead of gotten the draw against a fighter he should have beat easily.

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  6. bw51

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    US still has the best heavyweights in the world, they just chose to play in the NFL and NBA bc greater pool to make millions lol

    But YEAH, the UK has the heavyweight division on lock at the moment
     
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  7. lepinthehood

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    yeh thats it :D

    the uk would dominate all divisions but too many millions to earned in football, cricket and rugby.
     
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  8. bw51

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    hahaha fair play but i don't know about that bc the NFL and NBA are 95% negroid, so a false equivalence
     
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  9. lepinthehood

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    tell them guys to get boxing its a better sport and we all love it!
     
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    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably true tbh. Watched a documentary recently...think it was devon haney. More the training they do outside the boxing gym was incredible. Oxygen chambers etc etc. Really buy into the sport science aspect of it...and reinvest the money they make into their future.

    Think the brits make up for it in grit and determination sometimes. But more of them really need to reinvest in themselves for training camps etc. Brooks trainers was a very good one in ingle. But their underfunded in comparison with some of the american gyms and how much the boxers over there reinvest in themselves. Just my take on it.
     
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  11. Serge

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    The Peter Fury trained Savannah Marshall proves otherwise. How is it that the best British female boxer is not only slicker, more skilled and more powerful than all her male counterparts from across the pond but she would actually beat them all with the exception of Michael ''The Bounty'' Hunter?
     
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  12. bw51

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    a statisical outlier, if not then it's not to say that UK fighters can't beat US fighters, that was never the claim.

    but on average, over many iterations, US fighters should prove superior bc of better training methods.

    the UK has some great boxers but still has some catching up to do, especially when it comes to fighting in the pocket and, most importantly, slipping the jab
     
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  13. bw51

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    also, not as many sparring partners in sheffield. in america, u get to spar in all styles - EE, mexican, cuban, 2black2slick

    also, UK pros tend not to train with amateurs which is stupid. in the US, the amatuer fighters spar with pros asap
     
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  14. covetousjuice

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    This is ridiculous. I'm no fan of the UK in general, but they clearly field a disproportionately high number of top boxers.
     
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  15. J Jones

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    Kell caught my attention with that part of the interview. Still, it’s a stretch to suggest that a two time Olympian, Olympic gold medalist, 1-loss heavyweight champion, didn’t learn how to fight until he went to Kronk.
     
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