Kell Brook vs. Siarhei Rabchanka & Gamal Yafai vs. Gavin McDonnell + Allen vs. Thomas II RBR.

The difference in the Spence fight was that Brook had been killing his body for 5-6 years more than Spence has.


Porter ducked the rematch and Thurman/Garcia never wanted it either so Brook took the GGG fight.

Brook should then have stayed at 154 and took Rabchenko then and built.


Too many guys have ducked Brook, the guy deserves more respect than Porter/Thurman/Garcia etc.

 

Many fans and objective scores had him winning the Spence fight before slowing and getting caught on the button.
He won a couple rds vs GGG between being out on his feet in the 1st and broken in the 4th.

No RChenko isn't elite, but neither is Mundine. But the rds and testing his speed and foot work would gauge his ability to either overpower Lara or Charlo or outbox Hurd or Ali.
And in 4-5 months, a lot could happen.
The IBF was prepared to allow Brook v Hurd or Trout for the vacancy left by Mallo.
Titles have been lost on scales. Vacated in avoidance. And then you got the WBA creating new ones as they please.

If I were his team though, I'd avoid any travel into backyards.
Bad enough the money wouldn't cover his training, but he'd need a ko to get a draw

 

And I think it will be the focus, with the Khan fight eyed as a first defense at a catchweight.

Eddie's been saying that Kell's one of the best in the world and talking about how much he believes in him ever since he signed him, so it's time for him to finally substantiate that talk by bringing a titlist to Kell's yard. I can't imagine even he'd be sick enough to send Kell out to the US to fight a guy even Texans have never heard of.

 

True....

But if Khan was willing to fight Canelo at 155, refusing to let Brook be 154 is a duck imo.

 

First of all i am not convinced floyd beat any women, considering there was no photo's and the amount of other women who make false allegations against rich athletes for a pay day.

Second of all, even if he did do it, There's never been another report of it happening again, hes served his time and moved on, people make mistakes, the inability to forgive and holding onto the past is another trait you appear to have.


People don't need to punish the behavior of internet trolls either, people need to grow a thicker skin and stop getting their feelings hurt and responding to them, Responding to them is what gives them a platform don't get emotional and respond and hey have nobody to talk **** too. Most trolls are the internet are kids in their moms basement and most of them grow out it.

I don't avoid confrontation either, I also don't get involved in confrontation,because i don't go looking for it. You act like we live in a world where there is confrontation every where you go and people go up to random strangers talking trash. Its simply not the case and makes me wonder if you actually leave the house much and have a grasp on real world reality? you appear to be be trapped in a irrational negative paranoid insecure state of mind. Most people who find them selves in confrontational situations drawn them upon them selves. People who are always in confrontations are always hot headed people who get upset over anything and everything and feel insulted by the slightest thing's.

I don't give af what people think of me, or what they say about me on the internet, The only time i ever did that was then i was a teenager and what a horrible mental prison that way of thinking that was to live in, Constantly feeling the need to prove your self, constantly looking for outside validation. No thank's.

Meeting strangers off the internet to teach them a lesson over who won the round of a boxing match is utterly ridiculous, how anybody can not see how such a way of thinking is NOT NORMAL is beyond me. Anger,hate, bitterness, insecurity and inability to forgive literally blinds people from rational thinking, until they learn to let these things go there is no much you can do to help them.

This is my last post on the matter anyway how, live your life how you wish, My advice is simply that there are better ways to deal with things that don't result in you becoming more an more bitter angry and full of hatred and no offense its pretty clear from reading many of your posts on this forum that it is the case with you these are all things that negatively effect your health etc stress is one of the biggest killers on the planet. I remember what it was like to have these same traits when i was younger and know how they literally blind rational thinking, i also know it was up to me to finally decide to change and pretty much nothing anybody could have told me at the time would i have listened to.

 

Brook would have smoked Thurman

 

Yep, and I wasn't one of the many droolers -- I respect a marriage, or a long-term relationship, so it's never been my tendency to lust after another man's woman, even when I wasn't in a committed relationship. She was just a great feature of the Carl Froch Rollercoaster Ride through his championship years.

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Legendary and hilarious.

Not especially classy, I grant you, but she was a woman in love running on hormonal nerves. Outside of Carl Froch fight nights, she's always struck me as a fine family lady.

 

Yeah, it's too dangerous for Kell to be fighting at 147. He's had a hard enough time staying in the sport, he needs the cushion of those extra pounds to be at his best. I think Khan also has better punch resistance at 154 as well, the fight really makes more sense at 154. If there's not a world title invovled, and there doesn't appear to be anything vacant at welterweight, there's really no reason for either to make 147 any longer.

Khan's next opponent, Phil Lo Greco is a 154-lber that Khan tried to drain to 147, but apparently they agreed to a catchweight of 150 lbs or something. Which is ridiculous, Khan last fought at 155, it doesn't make any sense for Khan to try to get a 154-lber like Lo Greco below the limit, especially when the fight that everybody wants to see Khan vs Brook, should be happening at 154 since that's clearly where Brook is at his best.

Not only that but Brook just picked up the Silver 154-lb title so at the very least at least Khan vs Brook at 154 could fight for something if they fought at 154. From the post fight interview with Hearn, I doesn't sound like Kell is going to make any annoucement until Khan's fight next months, he could challenge Charlo but I don't think he's ready for that. Since Ramadan is over by June, I think the most likely scenario is Khan vs Brook at 154 late summer for the Silver Title Brook just picked up. (if Khan wins of course)

I just hope Khan doesn't try more shenanigans like trying to drag Brook down in weight. tbqh it bothers me that Khan is trying to drain Lo Greco, making him to agree to a 150 catchweight. And no, it's not the same as Canelo and Khan fighting at 155, that actually made sense. Canelo was used to making that weight and Khan woudn't fight Canelo at 160. But Khan clearly is trying to weaken Lo Greco a natural 154-lber by making him fight below the limit and that's wrong. There are times where catchweights make sense and times where they don't. And I hope that Khan doesn't try to do the same in negotiations with Brook if he beats Lo Greco. (but frankly I don't think Hearn will allow a catchweight in Brook Khan, surely he'll push for the fight being at 154 which would favor Brook but he's got a Silver Title there now so that makes sense) I don't think Khan can easily make 147 anymore, sure Khan and Brook could make it if they had to but it is going to take something out of them. If Khan or Brook for that matter isn't going to fight for a World Title at 147 then fight at 154, no catchweights, no draining of fighters. Especially now that both fighters are promoted by Hearn, and Hearn has repeatedly stated he has not want Brook fighting at 147. He was against him fighting Spence at 147 because he knew he was a better fighter at 154 and he was proven right. (but Brook didn't want to vacate his title so it was hard to say no to him wanting to defend his title but still)

At this point, just beat your drained 154-lb opponent at your catchweight then man up and fight Brook at 154 this summer for Brook's Silver Title. Then the winner challenge Charlo or whoever for a 154-lb World Title. If Khan really wants to still be a weltweight, then challenge a 147-lb champ for a world title, Otherwise just move up to 154 and fight there full time.

 

Hes come in overweight for a few fights. Even if inconsequential and nothing to grumble over.
But he's always had the legs of a MW.
He's short for modern MW standards but he's a 170lb fighter. Even when campaigning at WW.
I've always wanted him to progress with his career, but he waited 5 yrs for May/Pac/Khan and when Vargas was all but done, Brexit drops the value of the purses from around 3.5 mil USD to less than 1.5 mil and it slipped away.
He wasted early prime yrs for a pay day never come.
He needs to get on and up.
No money at LMW but a title or two would get him into a vacant fight for a payday at MW when GGG moves N or retires.

 

Brook-Khan won't happen in the summer for any silver belt. Not only is April 21 too close to June to fit in a promotion and serious camps, the fight makes more marketing sense with some marbles on the line.

Bottom-heavy, like a great many Ingle fighters.

He didn't have issues with the weight until he started letting himself go between fights. With greater self-control, he would've been fine making 147, but you only have to walk down West Street and talk to some bouncers to know that discipline outside the ring has been one of his shortcomings.

Brook-Khan will do excellent business in the UK. But, as stated above, they need to set it up. It won't be for a silver title three months or so from now.

 

Not for June, more like August or even September. Ramadan ends in middle of June. Brook won the Silver Title, so he already has it. That's the only title that him or Khan have so unless they are going after a world title holder, if they are going to fight next, it makes sense for them to fight for the Silver 154-lb title that Brook just picked up.

What other options does Brook have? If he wants to fight Charlo in June, he'd have to commit to that like in the next several weeks. The date is set for June 9th a fight in at Staples Center in LA. I can't see Brook agreeing to that instead of waiting till April 21st to see Khan fight. And if he passes up the Charlo fight, then who is he going to fight in the summer? The Khan fight really makes most sense next, because here's the thing, Hearn wants Khan and Brook to both be coming off of a win. If either of them take a risky fight, they could get KTFO and lose the potential Khan Brook payday. I think the best move would be to make Khan Brook at 154 as their next fight, in August or September for Brook's Silver Title. Unless you want Brook to take another tune-up before Khan. I just think if Khan wins, Khan Brook next at 154 makes the most sense. I just don't think Brook is ready to go to LA and fight Charlo in June. That's a risky fight and just two months ago he wasn't sure if he was even going to continue his boxing career.

 

Eddie is eyeing June for Kell's return, said as much in the post-fight.

The Brook-Khan fight will happen when it makes the most money, and that's not now.

I can't imagine that Hearn won't be looking at the Sadam Ali situation for the latter part of 2018. That's a very winnable world title fight for Kell, I'd even say low-risk. Kell should smash him to pieces.

 

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Brook wants Khan bad. He would definitely do it at 147

 

That's how it should be. Spence continues to impress me.