Kellerman Says Pac Is Top 10 ATG; Ranks Higher Than Floyd...

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I’ve heard Max make this argument before. The issue with it is that he phrases as if Pac was naturally a flyweight and Floyd was naturally much larger. If you actually match Floyd’s age to his weight, his size was never much bigger since he was at lower weights as an am when Pac was already pro.

    Also, Pac got work done at 147 but was pretty limited at 135 and 140. Mayweather was solid at 135, 147, and 154.
     
  2. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Stephen A. is a racist POS and always sides w/ the black fighter. ALWAYS. Dude was rooting for AB. Pretty much tells you that his opinion is garbage.
     
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  3. Gabriel Syme

    Gabriel Syme Member banned Full Member

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    Wrong, because after 135 he never fought the best the division had to offer at any given time. NOT ONCE.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Why because you said so? And who are these so called best the division had to offer who would have been favored over PBF?:deal: I'm dying to know who they are.
     
  5. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Pacquiao's a former flyweight champion that went on to become an elite operator in the welterweight division.

    Pacquiao > Floyd

    FACT.

    :deal:
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Smith was not even on the panel it was a panel of sports writers and boxing historians. And PBF was ranked higher in both ESPN and The RIng and by Roach, deal with it.
     
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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pac never beat JMM clearly was KTFO by him and lost by UD to PBF easily
    PBF>Pac
    Fact
    :deal:
     
  8. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Floyd dragged JMM up 2 weight classes and then CHEATED him on the scales. Pac got KTFO by a roided JMM.

    Maidana pushed Floyd's stool in. Maidana got shut out by Devon Alexander. Pacquiao destroyed Cotto and Oscar. Cotto gave Floyd fits and Oscar ran it very close w/ Floyd. Hatton had to fight Joe Cortez AND Floyd in the ring. Pac put Hatton through a wormhole and retired him.

    :deal:
     
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  9. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He fought the #1 154 pounder 3 different times , so much for that statement.
     
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  10. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    118-110 forever.
     
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  11. Gabriel Syme

    Gabriel Syme Member banned Full Member

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    I didn't say anything about who would've been favored. I said he never fought the other top dogs in his weight class at any moment in his career after 135.
    People in the industry know this. Why do you think Keith Thurman told Spence, "I ain't Floyd Mayweather, son." when Spence accused him of ducking?

    Posterity will not be nearly as kind to Floyd's legacy as modern day fanboys are.
     
  12. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Max "story of the fight" Kellerman is terrible, ruined HBO commentary with his agendas. No time for the coldsore-ridden pencil-necked corporate shill.
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    I think when Pacquiao was born he was 7 pounds and so was Mayweather.

    But at least you stayed on topic with his argument.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    Well look man, even as a big Pacquiao fan I'm biased.

    But nobody can give a successful takedown of Kellermans argument. Who has risen from Lineal Flyweight champ, won a bunch of titles at the lower weights and was that good as a Welterweight.

    There hasn't been a takedown of his argument, he wins the debate.
     
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  15. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    There isnt an argument that force Kellerman to climbdown. Because Mayweather hasnt given him one.

    Kellerman could say that Pac is greater than than Duran. But then I could refute that by saying that Duran beat Ray Leonard and moved up to ****ing Middleweight and took a prime Hagler into deep waters.

    Kellerman in the video refuses to climbdown because nobody can give him a good enough argument to do so.