Kellerman.........

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by robpalmer135, Sep 20, 2009.


  1. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    I know but he just does it a lot. I think it was set up to get Mosley in there from the off to be fair. Floyd was set up a little there to be put on the spot. Bit shady taking his glory away from him there. No doubt another 'Golden Boy' ploy to try and get one of the big partners into a fight :lol:
     
  2. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This was while training for the Malignaggi fight, not the weigh in (as I said) and he had not got down to the 140 limit yet but was already looking very ill.

    If the 2lbs is so insignificant then why is it being demanded.......I think we all know that one and I refuse to give Pac credit if he beats a drained Cotto. If Cotto is not drained then it will be an easy nights work imo.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Yeah. First question should have been about Pac fight but Mosley was standing there and was obviously going to get in on it.
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    :lol:

    Great.

    So basically, if Cotto wins you expected it. If Pacquiao wins Cotto is drained and gets no credit.

    Come on man, that is weak.
     
  5. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no, If Cotto looks drained, its really easy to tell the difference between a drained fighter and a beaten fighter. We will already know at the weigh in.

    Cotto suffererd greatly at 140 then when he moved to 147 he looked great so somewhere inbetween is the turning point where he becomes a weaker fighter and team Pacquaio are counting on that being at 145lbs.

    This is why this catchweight stuff is so questionable. Pac has plenty of good fighters his own size he could face yet he'd rather fight bigger guys but limit their abilities as he does it. Its not rocket science mate.
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Cotto always looks shitty on the scales as far as I can see. Always look pale and dry, even at welterweight he's not looked all that healthy.

    Pacquiao is a little guy, and he's fighting a big guy. He's just trying to make the paying field a little more level, even though I'd prefer if it was just at 147, its really not as bad as people make out.

    Y'know the other side of the coin is that if Cotto is sensible and trained from a long way out to shift this mass, he'll make the weight quite well, rehydrate, and be super strong. If he does this sensibly he'll be way bigger than Pacquiao on fight night and not at all hindered. That is just as likely as people fearing the worst case scenario, fact is..we don't know.

    I fear people are just going to look at it like this...

    Cotto wins = Not Drained
    Pacquiao wins = Cotto Drained :-(
     
  7. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto wins = Pac was too small. This really is a no-win for both fighters.

    Cotto has been sensible starting light training to increase his metabolism. He's not cutting weight, he's burning fat. I think he'll be bang on and looking as good as the first five rounds against Margarito.
     
  8. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What are people moaning for..

    That was the best part of he night...!
     
  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    The guy is inept. Isn't he the one who said Katsidis-Casamayor shouldn't have been stopped when it was? :patsch
     
  10. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Cotto staggers all over the place with punches that are not particularly hard then we know he is drained. Cotto on the scales at 147 looked a billion times healthier than at 140. He took some big shots from Judah (the hardest shots he has ever taken imo) and looked fine yet when he was drained chop chop had him staggering all over the place with a shot that was nowhere near as hard as the one from judah. I would go as far to say Cotto is the worst fighter affected by weight issues I have seen. I reckon Pac is an elite fighter but not the best. Too many of Pacs opponents since the first MAB win were not coming off wins (nearly 50% of them if memory serves)

    On nother note, I reckon if Mosely was in there last night against JMM it would have been a much closer fight. Only Floyd is good enough to beat opponents so clearly imo.
     
  11. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest I loved the fight. It was always going to be one for the purist and not be everyones cup of tea. I said a while back that it might not be a classic but it will be like watching a game of chess with two grand masters.

    I loved it and was in awe of PBF's talent(again) and I reckon we should enjoy it while we have it coz boxing will miss Floyd when he's gone.
     
  12. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    What rules are they breaking, mate?
     
  13. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I appreciate it man, but Floyd Mayweather against smaller/slower fighters can get away with fighting like that. I will say it again, Floyd Mayweather is technically flawed, when he starts his attacks..if he misses the first punch...he will go into his defensive shell.

    If he lands the first punch, he will follow up with a 1 - 2.

    Now that kind of boxing style would not stop Shane Mosley, Shane Mosley is a fighter who is commited to his attacks...if he starts an attack..even if he misses the first punch..he is coming back with something esle. Floyd Mayweather fights like a amateur, it's like a voilent game of tick. There is nothing wrong in that, but on his showing last night..them pot shot's...WOULD DO **** ALL TO SHANE MOSLEY.

    THEY WOULD HAVE NO AFFECT AND DO **** ALL.

    He will continue to fight like this until, fighters with speed and agression..can force him out of this style. Every fighter he faces with decent speed and agression has done this......

    Ricky Hatton did it....

    And so would Shane Mosley..

    But Shane Mosley hits harder than Hatton/Judah, has better punch resistance..

    And is a better fighter..

    I was not at all impressed with last nights peformance...

    Nope..
     
  14. Bunce

    Bunce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My rant now seems tame!


    Adios.