Kelley: "Pacquiao Makes Alot Of Mistakes"

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    it's easy to look good? ok name me a fighter who looked good fighting david diaz and oscar dela hoya other than pacquiao? talk is cheap.
     
  2. K1t3

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    Every fighter makes a lot of mistakes in the ring. Over engaging, exposing the chin, ignoring the jab, no head movement, letting an opportunity pass, not clinching, etc. There is no such thing as a perfect fighter. Every fighter is beatable - that is the nature of boxing.

    Who's saying that Pacquiao is an un-hittable superman? No one in his right mind would say that.
     
  3. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  4. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    talk is cheap, well so are pACS victories over diaz and el pollo loco.

    diaz is an ok fighter at 135, but made to go, for a fighter like pac. that was cherrypicking at its best. He was ordered at the local Burrito place and delivered straight to pacs door.

    regarding the dlh fight, again roach cherrypicked for pac, to earn him a victory over a NAME, who no more is a fighter.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

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    ok, then give some names who looked good fighting david diaz and oscar delahoya? you said it's easy, so name them.

    casa is no better than david diaz. the only fighters better than them at 135 is juan diaz and campbell. 135 is not that strong division when pac and jmm moved-up. oscar is a huge money fight for pac and he took it. its not like he wasn't risking here. we all know that oscar just beat steve forbes at 150 and a lot of people thinks pac and roach was crazy for wanting to fight oscar. its easy for you to say that pac is a cherry picker in hindsight. can you say that he cherry-picked hatton now?
     
  6. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    name me a fighter at present who didn't "cherrypicked" base on your standards. :hey
     
  7. tolindoy

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    you still didn't answer his question....or you just choked!!!!:nut:nut:nut
     
  8. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    His defense has steadily improved since his early days at 106 to 122.

    He's still not a defensive master and a textbook fighter, and he will never be one.

    He has a barely average chin, and he gets squared up and is vulnerable to counters whenever he overdoes his attacks.

    He's not the greatest counterpuncher, or the best inside fighter, or has the hardest one punch power in his last 3 or 4 divisions.

    He's not oozing with natural talent and is equipped with amazing technical skills on offense and defense that makes him look like he can win fights without even trying.

    All his fights have been all effort and intensity, win or lose. Anything less than 100% effort and preparation would mean a sure loss.

    But with what few physical gifts the Lord has given him, the little Pac-man has done a lot of very good things with it.

    Not bad for a one dimensional, one handed skinny kid who cant box.




    PS:

    I'm really disappointed with how he's been running his business outside the ring, and he pisses me off. But I'm still rooting for him to win against Hatton this summer.
     
  9. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you want me to answer a question about, who looked good against dlh, so basicaly you want me to compare fights from fighter A: a prime dlh to Fighter B: a shot to **** and drained dlh.

    are you philipine ****ers really that ******ed, that you cant tell the difference..?

    anyone who takes on oscar at 147 at present time, will be fighting a punchin bag.. does that hurt your feelings..?

    oh you mean the diaz, that went live and death with a shot morales. give me a break..

    if.. and i mean if, that pac gets by hatton at 140, i will give him props for going up in weight, so far his weightjump, has been carefully planned, thats it borders herrypicking that not even mayweather could dream of
     
  10. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    We dont really need to talk like that to one another, gigo. We can disagree without being disagreeable.
     
  11. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i dont care if it was a huge money fight, nor do i care, what you or other people said before the fight, that is NOT something you should try to make me responsible for. ALL you do is say, well before the fight, THEY said so and so, well guess what, IM NOT ONE OF THOSE.. so quit the hindsight-excuse.:lol:

    hatton is close to his prime, and fighting at his ideal weight, so actually no.. the hatton fight is not, and i repeat NOT, a cherrypick..

    casa would wipe the flor with diaz..
     
  12. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    casa got schooled by sta. cruz who got KTFO by diaz. :lol:
     
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    The only mistakes that bother's me about pacquiao is his balance. He always gets off balance! Even now at his peak he still seems to trip over his own feet. I guess it happens more often with pac since he put's so much body weight everytime he launches that left straight of his.
     
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    yup thats why he is the P4P King
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

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    boxing is a business and boxers fight for money. pac fought diaz because he is under arum. jmm did fought casa and juan diaz because they are under GBP and it is the best money fight for jmm. pac-oscar and pac-hatton was made because they were the top 3 money makers in boxing right now and would be huge income for them. you are too naive and arrogant dude. :good;)