Kelly Pavlik Logs In Worst Perfomance of His Career

Doubling up the jab?

 

Boo, that was a good post. I think you're right about some of the stuff you say, but for once I don't think Loew was to blame - his plan was pretty sound. Keep working, use left hooks instead of jabs, and throw the right after. He even told him to throw to the chest to disrupt his punching.

The main issue for Pavlik was that, for once, he didn't commit to the body. That would have turned it into a very different fight if he's chosen to sacrifice the early rounds in service of a body attack.

I think back, and rather than pissing away his time fighting Lockett, he should have gone out of his way to make the Abraham fight. That's a fighter with a style much more conducive to Kelly's own. I still think Abraham would have laid him out, but it would at least have been exciting and it would have been a MW legacy of fighting the best out there.

 

No credit for Martinez from the Pavlik dick riders, and nothing but a thinly veiled excuse thread. No Pavlik didnt implement the best strategy to beat Martinez and you want to know why? Its because he isnt a versatile enough or intelligent boxer.

Martinez put forward an excellent strategy, excellent display of skill, counter punching, footwork, speed and defense. That was a display that would beat any version of Pavlik, not because Pavlik is a bad fighter but because that type and quality of lateral movement, counter punching and defense are something he is not capable of outboxing and hes never fought anyone with such skills to prove otherwise. Now maybe Pavlik is slightly past prime, maybe he drinks too much, but being prepared is key to boxing, not that itd matter because his footwork/defense/variety aren't good enough to outbox this type of boxer.

Pavlik has a rematch clause, if you believe in him so much lobby for the fight and put your life savings on him winning, you'll make a packet if he wins Here's guessing him and his team don't pick up the rematch because they know hes not capable of outboxing this type of boxer

 

Okay Booradley.

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take your time and read this carefully, you don't need to reply just think about it!

Many boxing fans and experts broke down the fight and came up favoring Martinez based on style, mobility and speed advantage, which ultimately decided the fight. Kelly Pavlik did what he supposed to do and didn't do things Maravilla didn't allow him to do as predicted. He came up short and took the loss like the gentleman he is, didn't blame the form or weight, he did what he could, and our respect goes for him. This is a freaking sport, when there's a winner, there's a loser as well, he let NOBODY down just because Martinez was the better man!

Reading your comeback post it seems YOU let Kelly Pavlik down! How dare you come back after all YOUR **** talk and blame Pavlik calling him a "******", blaming his game plan, blaming Jack Loew and the Team projecting YOUR total lack of poper analysis on them! Kelly Pavlik just lost a fight which was a tough challenge based on styles, but YOU my friend made a 500 totally out of line comments and made a fool of yourself, and you dare to unleash a rage on Kelly Pavlik and talk about HIS reputation?

How about writing a long breakdown how YOU my friend came up with YOUR worst performance ever, taking YOUR responsibility for your weeks of bull**** talk, your "act of ******ation" and how YOU disappointed the man you were rooting for! How about apologising for YOUR actions and lack of insight here, man up and admit YOU totally underestimated Maravilla Martinez, that YOU would like to congratulate the deserved winner!


"Responsibilty for that little act of ******ation lies squarely at the feet of Kelly Pavlik, and no where else."

No. Pavlik just lost a fight to the better man, that happens all the time in boxing, he'll be back, trust me. Responsibilty however for YOUR little act of ******ation here lies squarely at YOUR feet, and nowhere else!


Man up and admit YOUR failure, congratulate the deserving champion in style with no excuses or blame on Kelly whatsoever, and you'll get your reputation back, plus fans won't hold your absolutely outrageous posts against you! Tough thing to do, but I'm sure you can do it!

 

You're not making excuses for Pavlik - you're making excuses for your own ill-informed opinion by blaming it on Pavlik. [/truth]

 

You really are pathetic.

 

It really annoys me when people say "Why wasn't he throwing as many punches as usual?". You can't look at his numbers against Lockett or Rubio and expect Pavlik to throw that amount of punches against a mover. I said this many times before the fight, in reply to people saying Pavlik's workrate would win him the fight - Pavlik doesn't have great workrate if you aren't there for him. If you stand there, sure, he'll throw 80 punches a round but he can not hit a moving target. It's as simple as that.

Pavlik was the same fighter he always was and when Maravilla stopped moving, he looked good again. He just can't cope with movement because he's such a rangey fighter, has no inside game and poor movement himself.

The whole argument is the wrong way around. It's like saying "If Arsenal had passed the ball around against Barcelona, like they did against Hull, they'd have won".

 

I disagree. Apart from heart issues (if they exist), I thought he put on a very good performance.

 

I thought it would be a tough fight but favored Kelly because I thought he would bring too much late pressure. Pavlik looked good in the middle of the fight and I had him up by a point going into the 9th, but it was Martinez who took the Championship rounds. Overall, a very competitive fight and I would be very interested in seeing a rematch.

 

kelly isnt the first person to face adversity in their life/career. but he is facing some serious adversity right now. a string of **** luck health wise, having to cancel on williams, and now he gets undressed on boxing's big stage for the second time in his career.

this will either make him or break him. he'll either come to an agreement w/ the man in the mirror to rekindle that old fire that got him the belts in the first place, along with dealing with some obvious issues that everyone sees both in his game and training, or he'll decide against it and call it a day.

i'll be on here with a pavlik avatar like always pulling for the kid no matter what. plenty of fighters have come back after getting their asses handed to them. kelly is still young and strong and if he is truly committed, he can do this.

boo, have some faith.

 

PAvlik needs a new trainer, and a move to 168. PAv followed Martinez too much. I would've had PAv using the jab and straight right more, and had him either backing up or clinching after he got off. PAv's people had to know that Martinez was fast, and it semed that PAv had no feints, and that he was not taught to properly throw the left hook. It's time PAv got a new trainer as Loew can't teach him anything else...

 

Perfectly said...:good

 

Spot on, that's why Froch couldn't be as active as Dirrell and Abraham, though not a particularly active fighter, was even less active against Dirrell. The other thing to note is Froch, Abraham, and Pavlik all pretty much failed to work the body all night long; moving does that as well.

 

Wow lol... Brad was an a-hole when it came to talking about PAv, but fighters lose, and their fans think they have to own up to their shite talking... Lots of things go into a bad performance... This one was speed and underestimating the smaller 35 year old Martinez. Where is PAvlik's fan at...???

 

PAv's defense was also suspect. The one thing that you can always work on with a bit of sucess is defense because you can always train harder. PAv's chin is good so he has to train the body harder.