Kelly Pavlik Makes History already

Jones had a higher KO percentage than Pavlik as an unbeaten MW champion. Jones was 22-0 with 20ko's when he became MW champion.

His KO percentage is higher for 32 fights than those guys, but he doesn't have the highest KO percentage of an unbeaten MW champion.

And after 32 fights, Julian Jackson had the same KO percentage, but wasn't unbeaten. Of course, he lost to an ATG.

All I'm saying is it's cool to be a fan. But don't toss around statements like "Most devastating puncher of the last 20 years", talk about other fighters not having done what he's done, and be wrong. Those guys are top notch, and it sounds like you're saying Pavlik has somehow surpassed them in some way. Perhaps I'm wrong and reading into it.

 

I like watching Pavlik fight, but the over-hyping of him on here since that Taylor fight is mental. Most devastating puncher of the last 20 years??? Where the **** did that statement come from?

 

Hey Youngstown...you Kellys neighbor?

 

If I agree with this ( and I have to ) can we be buds ?:yep

 

You mean I've said a white champion isn't the best ever and you agree with me :shock:

Fair do's, outside of Klitschko threads I'm your pal :rasta

You **** :twisted:

Oh and on Pavlik - tremendous fighter, has made the most of what he's got and deserves full credit for beating a champion who is/was better than he was given credit for. Taylor obviously didn't have the best of chins but had what I'd call an 8 or 9 out of 10 offense and Pavlik had to break Taylors heart to win that fight, the kid did great. Would he beat prime Jones or Hopkins? I doubt it, but there's no shame in that.

 

You guys gotta admit though, there is something special about a guy who knocks out three guys with good records who have never been KOed back to back to back.

 

Stop being so rational ! Oh and for the record the same defence I make for VLAD I also make for LL ! no need for race to be brought up ! :deal Now go **** yourself :yep ! PS whern did you start crediting white fighters ?:hey

 

If you'd known me for a while you'd know my favourite fighters list includes the likes of Buchanan, Sibson, Colin Jones, Watt, McGuigan etc etc etc, I know they ain't the greatest but I grew up supporting them. I don't care what a fighters skin colour is, hand on heart. Unless they're a Klitschko, obviously.

 

Pav's accumulation is devastating and he's been quoted as saying so. Pav has reached the big's now and with it comes intense scrutinizing of his achievements and record, along with haters. All part of the biz. But Pav himself would tell you he's not the biggest puncher of the last 20 years and in doing so you have only given detractor's ammo and reason to down on Pav.

 

No, you're right. He deserves great credit for that win. His competition has been pretty good, while not off the charts. Beating Taylor, who I think was better than many gave credit, was excellent and a good way to start his title reign. I want a dominant champion in the storied MW division and if Pavlik is that guy, excellent. But saying he has set a record that he hasn't, then stating that he is the most devastating puncher of the past 20 yrs in the way its stated (showing the names of fighters who he has higher KO percentage than, and then making the final statement) just looks like complete overkill.

 

100% correct (in my opinion, of course)

I hope he has a long reign, boxing needs champions like him - but I wouldn't rule out Taylor beating him in a rematch. I'd favour Pavlik but I suspect Taylor 2nd time round won't be the pushover a lot of people seem to think he is.

 

Ya know what I like about your post/thread reply?? it's like you qre trying to protect Kelly
It sounds like you qre trying to prevent pavlik from getting nut-huggers, and turn him into the target of haters threads and posts..nice job

 

Well that makes sense :huh

 

That is true. Though, he has shown that he has the capability of eventually being regarded perhaps as one of, if not the, best middleweight KO artist ever. Truly, he could be something really really special, and though nuthuggers are annoying and shouldn't be indulged, we can't rule out the possibility that he might be the best knockout guy in MW history.

OBVIOUSLY he hasnt shown that he is yet, but he hasn't had the opportunity to yet. It can take an entire career to get those sort of accolades, but he is off to a good start.