Kelly Pavlik Making A Big Mistake !!!

Okay, here's a question, and I'm not being a smart ass. I'm serious. Have you ever seen Pavlik in any fight ever? I asked because if you haven't seen Pavlik's lead right, you've either never seen him fight, or when you did, you weren't paying much attention. He has one of the best lead rights in the business, and it's effective to both the head and the body.

 

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Nope. A stop of Bhop will galvanize Ole Joe's retirement plans. :deal

 

Yeah, gotta say, if Pavlik KO's Hopkins, Calzaghe won't go anywhere near him. He will 'reconsider' his plans to return to SMW after Jones (assuming Jones doesn't send him into retirement first)

 

The only problem with that being that you completely neglecting how difficult and elusive Hopkins is to land flush on. His defence is great even at the age he is now. Pavlicks accuracy is based on fighting men who have poor movement: Taylor, Lockett, Zuniga etc are all defensively naive in one way or another. Therefore it's monumentally easier to land straight "accurate" shots on these guys. Calzaghe on the other hand fought Hopkins, the defensive nightmare. You can't stand off Hopkins and expect to hit him from the outside. And neither is he going to come to you and make the fight. So Calzaghe's tactic was to use speed and angles, something Kelly doesn't really have in his arsenal. Straight, hard punches do more damage over a long fight........ but only IF they land.

Joe's footwork and balance is incredibly complex. His overconfidence got him into trouble against Hopkins. He thought he would go in there and bully him all night long. Calzaghe had little respect for what was in front of him. Hopkins timing is impeccible and when the opportunities presented themselves, he cashed in a couple of times. But let's look at the Calzaghe of the Lacy fight or the Kessler fight. Calzaghe was very light footed, circuling right outside both their left feet negating the left jab. Hopkins took this out of the game by not basing his attack on the jab making Calzaghe's normally good footwork seem desperate at times.

The bottom line is that between Hopkins and Pavlicks, Bernard is by FAR the better boxer of the two.

 

I agree that this fight is a mistake for Kelly. No matter how impressivly he wins (if he wins), it will be attributed to bernard being old. he's got everything to lose and nothing to gain from this fight.

 

What? Pavlik leans right into his punches and leaves himself wide open if he misses. Taylor caught him when he ducked his jab. Even tiny Lockett landed a few on the counter. Joe would render his jab completely ineffectual and catch him as he tried to throw it all night long. Calzaghe loves tall, orthodox jabbers, just look at Kessler, Woodhall and Veit x2 for proof.

 

Calzaghe.

He talked all that ****, but was scared to fight him. If he wasn't, he would have fought him.

If you're gonna talk ****, back it up.

Pavlik called him out on national television. Calzaghe was too scared to show up at the fight. He didn't want to be put in that sort of predicament because Pavlik's not scared of Calzaghe.

Calzaghe is a good fighter, no doubt, but fact remains he talked the talk, yet didn't walk the walk.

What am I talking to you for though, you're the most biased mother ****er on this forum, and the only reason you're saying that Pavlik won't beat Hopkins is because you're scared that if he does, it will be more convicing that your boy Calzaghe's win.

Calzaghe vs Pavlik would be a good fight, and what I would orginally have Calzaghe winning, I'm in doubt now.

I read something where Calzaghe said he never wanted to get in a war. Well, sometimes a war is an inevitability. Pavlik is a mug. He ain't a pretty boy like Kessler. He's not afraid to get hit and will go in the ring trying to kill Calzaghe because Pavlik beats the **** out of **** talkers.

You'll see what he'll do to Bernard.

Bernard never gave Kelly credit for beating Taylor. He said it was God. And of course it was God, but the way Hopkins said it was demeaning and disrespectful.

From what I read about what Pavlik has to say, he's determined to show people he's the real deal, and loves it when people talk ****.

The mother ****er is hard. And while Calzaghe ain't soft, and has plenty of skills, he ain't nearly as hard as Pavlik, and he knows that Pavlik will force a war.

Calzaghe ain't ready for that. He never has been.

On the other hand, props to Bernard, but I think Bernard is gonna get beat the **** up in this fight whether or he wins or not.

Don't get me wrong, this will be an ugly fight, but Kelly will bang him so hard, that you're gonna see the PENETENTIARY come out of Bernard. Bernard ain't soft either, and with his age and his legs, he'll have no choice but to fight.

Kelly has a way of forcing people into a fight, and whether you wanna admit it or not, Calzaghe doesn't wanna fight. He wants to box his way to a comfortable decision and not get touched.

 

This is the thing. I watched the Lockett fight with intrigue because there were numerous opportunites for Lockett to counter after he ducked Pavlicks jab. Lockett just didn't have the confidence to think about the next step, he was more concerned with getting out of the way. Against a good counter puncher, Pavlick would have eaten an overhand/straight right all night long. Hopkins has the punch to counter him, more importantly, his timing is impeccible. I can see Pavlick getting tagged all night long by Hops right hand because he leaves himself wiiiiiiiide open.

 

Sorry, didn't get to read it all but let Pavlick prove he deserves the fight by upping the $$$s by winning an eliminator against Hopkins. If he does then Joe has nowhere else to go except retire or fight Pavlcik - let's just see what happens before the end of the year before throwing the ducking allegations around.

 

LOL 100% Youngstown Pavlik hugger.

 

You're still going to be surprised when Pavlik knocks Bernard out. Pavlik has a massive grudge against Bernard, and Bernard is on his last leg.

In this fight, you're going to see Bernard fight like he's never fought before.

All that's been missing in Bernard's career is that he's never taken a beating.

 

You're right about one thing... I would be incredibly surprised if Pavlick knocked Hopkins out.... Very very surprised.

Why does he have a grudge against him?