Kelly Pavlik vs Arthur Abraham

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  1. Ethan Trims

    Ethan Trims Active Member Full Member

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    I can see someone saying AA has better power than Pavlik because Pav doesnt look that great on film, but saying he has better power than miranda is ****ing ******ed.
     
  2. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would just say that Abraham will not win rounds by blocking shots at the end of Kelly's jab and waiting for oppenings to launch fast, heavy-handed and accurate two-fisted attacks. In short contrast, Pavlik cannot do the same to Arthur that he done to Miranda and Taylor cuz this guy has too much boxing I.Q. to be cornered. I would suggest that this is a stylistic nightmare for both cuz Kelly wouldn't know what to do in case Abraham gets off and Arthur wouldn't know how to come out of his shell and through Pavlik's long arms... Happens that Arum is looking past and beyond Taylor and that doesn't make any sense with the rematch coming up. What would you say if Taylor catches Pavlik with the sort of shots Kelly caught Jermain with? That Abraham would do the same?... Doesn't make any sense either.
     
  3. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    At least, Abraham fought and KOed a guy with Pavlik's physical proportions in Ikeke...and if you watch this fight you see that Abraham can change styles when he has to...I think he would have something different on his mind, another gameplan when fighting Pavlik in contrast to his latest opponents...
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Remember when Tyson said "Everybody has a plan to beat Mike Tyson until I hit 'em in the mouth." I think something similar happens to Pavlik's opponents. They come in with a plan that makes sense, but that stiff ass jab followed by the straight right just gets the best of them, and the plan goes out the window.

    Boo
     
  5. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    Tyson lost a few or was that someone else?
     
  6. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is exactly why I said that Kelly can't corner him just like he did to Miranda and Taylor - Abraham has high boxing I.Q. and would react and anticipate with something, sliding, turning or slipping punches like he did to Miranda. Pavlik is pretty horrible to fight 2 cuz he stretches those long arms and keeps throwing smashing punches and you have to break through that ****... Man, I just think that Arum will never find a good deal to bring AA over to the US and Pavlik will never run out of opponents like Duddy.
     
  7. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    My statement wasn't directed at you because I know you have seen alot fights of both Pavlik and Abraham. This was just something for the shortsighted fans of Pavlik...

    If it happens you will see that this fight will be competitive...
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    As a big Pavlik fan, if this fight ends in an early KO, Abraham will have his hands raised in victory.
     
  9. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Abraham, he'll be outworked and behind on the cards, but I suspect he'll only need a few clean hooks to put Pavlik away, and Pavlik is hardly an elusive target, unlike Abraham who's extremely difficult to crack cleanly when he's defensive and looking for the counter.