Kelly Pavlik vs Librado Andrade

Koki Kameda

 

Ive seen this guy fight and his chin is unbelievable. Pavlik UD, if he Kod him hed be a true KO king.

 

Pavlik by UD

 

You guys aren't understanding that Pavlik lacks Kessler's precision, speed and defence, but that his power is probably not that much better.

Andrade will land on Pavlik and walk him down because Pavlik doesn't circle well and can't push Andrade backwards. Andrade took 5 shot pin point combo's from Kessler that were fully flush and kept coming and never ran out of stamina.

Andrade by KO, mid to late rounds. This is an easy fight to predict.

 

Amsterdamn, whats this? LoL everytime Pavlik is brought in a possible fight disscussion you seem to find it very easy to predict the outcome. This time hed get easily beat? I have to think about this one. For now I think he out points him, not as gracefully as kessler, but in a more slugfest kind of way with possible knockdowns in the fight going either way. Thats all that comes to my mind for now.

 

one factor to be aware of is although these guys are roughly the same size, kelly has been fighting the smaller opponent at middleweight, hence higher knocout percentage. Kessler is in another class when it comes to skills as well.

 

Here some dead set factors -

Kessler is quicker, more precise, a far better defence, throws fabulous combinations and lands at a high connect rate. Andrade could get nothing done because instead of just backing up, Kessler effectively circled and countered, this NOT something Pavlik is as proficient at.

This bout would end up being a war, only Pavlik's chin is up for grabs considering how Taylor dropped him, Andrade is huge with a long reach and has endless stamina and will be around when Pavlik tires out.

Pavlik doesn't hit harder than Kessler by the way, I am certain of that, Pavlik has always broken his opponents down, more so than just Julian Jackson style 1 shot KO's. Kessler breaks them down in a similiar way.

Andrade will not be backed up by Pavlik, he will throw shots from awkward angles and will in fact walk Pavlik down and KO him.

 

Koki Kameda

 

I rate Bute well, what are you talking about?

Yes, Pavlik has shown KO power, has broken down guys and has finished them impressively, but I doubt he hits THAT much harder than Kessler does and is nowhere near as accurate or as quick.

Kessler is very accurate and extremely fast with his counter punches and combinations.

 

Kessler is definitely the more precise, accurate, and quicker puncher, but I think Pavlik is heavier handed. The kid has 14" fists which are bigger than most of the heavyweight champions throughout history.

Head to head, Kessler beats him - I have no doubts about that.

 

And I was just accurately pointing out that Pavlik will not be able to keep Andrade at bay like Kessler did. Kessler is very fast, deceptively, very precise and has a great defence, Pavlik is the opposite, Andrade may even be a bit quicker in terms of 'movement'.

Andrade throws a high volume also, will land his KO shots on Pavlik and walk him down.

Pavlik cannot box for 12 like Kessler did, Kessler threw something like 950 punches and landed 400, that's extreme accuracy that Pavlik lacks, on top of the major speed difference.

Kessler is 3x the fighter Pavlik is, no doubt. I am not being biased just because Kessler is fighting Calzaghe, I am being very honest on the matter and have stood by this way before the Taylor bout, which you Brooklyn have seen me do.

 

Pavlik KO - I dont really rate andrade

 

Why can't I support all underrated great fighters that don't get the same press as others?

Kessler is masterful, if he beats Calzaghe I will be sad that Calzaghe loses, but I will also be highly impressed of Kessler and will be happy for him that he got a supremely good signature win under his belt at only 29 and has 5 years to go.

Kessler is class, he's a classy man and an amazing boxer-puncher, one of the best that I've seen to be in fact of the european stand up style. I really like him and wish him the best win or lose against Joe.

 

Kessler lands at least 300 power bombs and many in rapid succession and Andrade takes them like they are just good stiff jabs and somehow Pavlik jumps up in weight with his lower accuracy and speed and wins by KO?

Christ mate, it took him seven rounds to do in both Miranda and Taylor, smaller guys than Andrade who have actually been HURT in the past. Andrade has one of the best chins in all of boxing, it is solid titanium.

Or maybe you don't remember it taking 8 rounds to do in the smaller Zertuche, or 9 to stop Zuniga on cuts? But he KO's Andrade? Please.