Kelly Pavlik vs Librado Andrade

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  1. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HELL OF A FIGHT THIS WOULD BE!!! i watched Andrade's fight with Kessler and i kept waiting for him to go down or appear stunned at least after all that punishment. i thought maybe Kessler didnt have that much power at the time but i looked him up and hes got a high KO percentage. so i dont know if its just the level of opposition he has had or Andrade has a chin carved out of wood.
     
  2. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    Zuniga fought his heart out and wore out the lesser skilled Oganov. Can you believe he had a perfect record, and all coming by way of knockout.Then again, coming into the fight, he fought exclusively overseas. This first fight in the U.S was supposed to be a test to see if he was a fluke or for real; he flunked bad and got KTFO.

    How bad was Pavlik hurt when Zuniga knocked him down? Was it a flash knock down or what..?
     
  3. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    I have read through this thread and completely agree with you.

    This is a terrible fight for Pavlik. Its one thing to KO some tough middleweights, but to go up in weight and beat a guy that has a granite chin, great stamina, great heart and solid power.....I doubt it.

    Andrade took some amazing shots (in combination too!) from Kessler, and didnt budge an inch, Pavlik even if he had better power, he wouldnt land as often or with the same accuracy as Mikkel.

    Now im not saying Andrade is better than Taylor, of even Pavlik, but this is a huge stylistic nightmare for Pavlik. Just as Kessler was a stylistic nightmare for Andrade.

    Actually come to think of it, I was actually impressed with Andrades performance against Kessler, because even in a crushing loss he displayed intangibles that many greats would envy. He kept going until the final bell and im looking foward to seeing his career progress.

    Andrade by stoppage.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I'm glad we feel the same on this issue. I am not excusing Andrade's total lack of defence here, or his sloppy punches. But he has relatively okay timing, a large workrate, an uncrackable jaw and superhuman durability it seems with a full tank of stamina and he pressure's very effectively but was met by a true elite in Kessler.

    Andrade has the intangibles to give any sub-A level absolute hell and if Kessler is A level, then Pavlik is a solid B, and that's where I rate Andrade also. People don't recognise different kinds of strengths, nobody every will claim Andrade is a highly skilled fighter, but he surely can develop into an effective fighter given his intangibles.
     
  5. alex-boxer42

    alex-boxer42 Active Member Full Member

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    I have not seen the Zuniga fight against Pavlik, if anyone knows where I can Id love a link plz.

    I remember I heard it was oganovs dream to win by decision lol. Not surprised he got his ass handed to him at all. It was all hype, anyone who knocks all their opponents out and is undefeated is gunna get it.
     
  6. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Entertaining fight but im edging to Pavlik. he has the better boxing ability with some defence, while Andrade is a tough 168er, but not technically sound. Andrades chin will keep him in it, but i say Pavlik wins over 10 or 12 quite easily.
     
  7. Rollo

    Rollo Active Member Full Member

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    I doubt it, Andrade“s chin is from out of space.
     
  8. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    Yup. And he throws slow, looping shots. I think Pavlik outclasses Andrade.

    Key here is that Andrade throws like a snail. Or, at the very least, telegraphs his punches.

    I disagree with previous posters in that I think Andrade IS technically sound though... in the chin department.