Kelly Pavlik vs Mikkel Kessler who wins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vincent Gottschalk, Oct 2, 2007.


  1. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Definitely not in terms of greatness or overall skill level in their respective primes, but head to head now, Kessler probably beats B-Hop.
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Well, I damn well know Kessler wouldn't hold a draw with Mercado in his prime if you'd like to get really nastily technical.:yep
     
  3. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    2 or 3 years after Taylor was finished with him. And that's an uncertain conclusion.

    Taylor has a better jab than Kessler's.

    Kessler just hasn't fought anyone, but ****, time will tell.

    Let's see how Kessler does against Calzaghe.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    He wins every round, stops him from wearing him down. Hopkins was wary of Taylor's jab and right hand, now lets up that 2 years later now and 2 levels above in ability and skill.

    :yep
     
  5. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    That's cuz there are no Mercado's in the supermiddleweight division. Just a bunch of Andrades and Beyers.......
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Kessler will lose to Calzaghe, maybe competitive, maybe he'll get dominated, Calzaghe has the stylistic advantage and that's for damn sure.

    However, losing against one of the best fighters in the ****ing world right now is nothing to be ashamed about. Calzaghe is 3 levels above Jermain Taylor, 3 levels above the CURRENT version of Bernard Hopkins.

    Kessler beats virtually anyone else around the general weight class, including Chad Dawson IMO. Chad Dawson is a guy that you all underrate, he's a serious talent and seriously skilled, he's also about 2-3 levels above Jermain Taylor.

    This is the level that Calzaghe-Kessler and Dawson currently operate on. If Kessler beats Calzaghe, then he deserves a top 5 P4P ranking, that's for certain.
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I just don't see how you can rate such an unproven guy 3 levels above a guy that beat some of the PFP best.

    Makes no sense to me.
     
  8. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    U are joking, right?



    If youre not youre ****ing stupid.

    I mean totally lost. I feel sorry for you.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Kessler is not unproven, he just hasn't been matched with overrated 'names' just yet. The current version of Hopkins and Winky both are absolutely OVERRATED. You don't even see any of Kessler's obvious strengths because you watch with blinders on.

    Mundine beats both of them at the moment, what does that say?
     
  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Tell that to Mundine.

    He'll **** his pants.
     
  11. Mrvooh

    Mrvooh Guest

    You are right on this= I say Kessler is near Calzaghe on foot movemnts, which is what helped Joe vs another big puncher..Lacy.
    Now that I brought Lacy into it, how would Kelly do against him??
     
  12. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik by late KO.
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You've been reading too many American boxing articles and listening to far too many others who have read and believed them.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Kessler isn't the most devastating puncher. Plus Taylor landed ALOT to get the kd. Plus PAvlik basically stuck his chin out. Plus Kelly was caught in an awkward shot. Plus PAvlik survived. Plus Pavlik has taken bombs from Miranda.

    Your chinny theories and trash and this was proven when Taylor took big punch after big punch and he had to be slowed down and then caught with NUMEROUS big shots for the finish.
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Amsterdam what the **** is a stylistic advantage. There is no such thing unless you are talking about limited fighters. Its about fighting the fight that wins on any given night. Calzaghe and Kessler are versatile fighters who can fight a hard 12. It is not a given what game they choose to execute.