Kelly Pavlik vs Mikkel Kessler who wins?

Since you would like to know then let me answer you

You are definately the most stupid. Satisfied?

Now please answer a question for me in return.
How do you think Bute and Pascal would fare against respectively Taylor, Kessler and Pavlik at 168?

 

i was rooting for Taylor to beat Pavlik, but Kelly showed great heart and recovery after a 2nd rd that no one else at 160 would've survived...and seeing the performance against Taylor, i'm convinced Pavlik would wipe his ass with Mikkel Kessler...Calzaghe would be a harder fight for Pavlik stylewise, but i'd still pick Pavlik to beat him too...

 

Kessler would own Pavlik

 

2005 Lacy KO 4 Kelly Pavlik.

Again, Pavlik will not be backing Lacy up and Pavlik himself cannot fight off the back foot, Lacy will also have the oppurtunity to land his best bombs as Pavlik has virtually no defence, save for his workrate and jab, which will be negated by Lacy's pressure.

 

Ohh - finally. :good

This is excactly what Ive been saying all along. The stylistic advantage is neutralised when we have two elite fighters in the ring.

Gameplan, physique, instinct is what counts. This is why I believe in MK against Joe.

 

Yeah and Thysse got thrashed far worse against Kessler, that was a hell of a beating if you remember.

 

Yeah, Pascal KO's Taylor most likely.

 

Pavlik's jab will control Calzaghe's aging handspeed, and i doubt Calzaghe can seriously hurt Pavlik, as Taylor and Miranda both hit harder than Calzaghe...Calzaghe would take a late beating against Pavlik, whose pressure will slow Calzaghe down by the mid rds...Calzaghe is not as fast as he once was...

 

Lets clear up some things here.

1. Kessler is a VERY sound orthodox boxer.

2. Kessler does carry some power.

3. Kessler is NOT faster than Pavlik. Pavlik actually from my observations is faster than Kessler, but only slightly, not significant.

4. Kessler is NOT a fast mover. His feet have to be planted to do any damage.

5. Pavlik is much sharper than Andrade. Andrade is like a 168lb version of Antonio Margarito. iron chin, strong but highly inaccurate and slow off the mark.

6. Pavlik's jab would seriously trouble Kessler. While Kessler has his own, he would be in a jabbing contest with Pavlik that he has not seen in his career. It would be a fight in itself as to who establishes the jab to do other things.

I make this fight a pickem, 50-50. Kessler is very good at doing what he does but he presents no angle puzzles or extreme speed/power to trouble Pavlik. Taylor is also quicker than Kessler to a degree that is noticeable. Both of these guys could knock the other out but I think it's safer to assume it goes the distance. Pavlik or Kessler again could win this on the jab alone. But I don't see either getting the knockout. Both are too predictable.

 

That would be a good fight but I think Lacy will have trouble with Pavlik's jab. Pavlik will create enough space to hit Lacy with the jab followed by body punches and right hands. Lacy will have to wear Pavlik down with his own body punches early to win. If Lacy doesn't connect much early, Pavlik will get stronger as the fight goes on and win.

 

You know how hard it is to tie up on a guy who can knock you out with 1 or 2 solid right hands? First you actually need a cognitive moment to realize you are hurt, then you need to get close enough to grab on.

Taylor didn't have that moment. He got hit by one right hand, stumbled from it and then was hit with another before he could even think about grabbing. The only thing he could do at that point is cover up in the corner. He was never really close to grab, and when he did open up the uppercut nailed him.

 

I think you are mistaking him with a guy called Blocky.:yep

 

Yes, and Andrade said that Pascal hits harder.:roll: You are very fond of the "Canadian" fighters. I guess, you haven't forgiven Kessler for beating Lucas to a pulp.:yep

 

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And Hatton is also conscious and not hurt when he does this. atsch

Do you ever stop to wonder what it's like getting cracked in the face with a right hand?

 

13 votes for Pavlik by KO. :-(

In going back to a fine Taylor era qoute -

'This is the absurdity that we all have to live with'.:yep