Kelly Pavlik vs Mikkel Kessler who wins?

Make that 14.

 

I don't know who would win but I think saying a Pavlik KO is absurd would be absurd in itself. The guy is the middleweight champion of the world you know.

 

yes but the middleweight division is weak while the supermiddleweight division is jam packed with talent

 

Sarcasm at its finest.

Beyer and Andrade are the ****.

 

Yes and he won it from an overhyped champion who had never faced a power puncher in his life and who had no defence what so ever and no ring poise. Kessler is the opposite and is faster and harder hitting with premium accuracy.

Not to mention, Kessler has a good chin to back that great defence up.

Pavlik gets butchered and stopped. Kessler's competition is even better than Pavlik's if you look at it objectively.

 

Really...

Care to elaborate?

 

Objectively in a subjective world.

 

I guess, I didn't answer your question as you wanted.
By the way if you want to insult me then improve your English first. You write like a five year old, and I don't get easily offended by children or illiterates.

 

Pavlik is a helluva body puncher. He KOed McKart with a left hook to the body.

 

Funny you think that considering neither Kessler nor Bute lost a round against Thysse whereas Diaconu lost at least two.:huh

 

Sure -

Pavlik - Taylor, Miranda, McKart, Zuniga, Zertuche.

Kessler - Mundine, Andrade, Beyer, Lucas, Siaca, Thobela.

Kessler has fought larger men and a wider variety of styles. Mundine is interchangable with Taylor and in my opinion, better H2H, Andrade is more effective than Miranda and then you have a former LMW titlist in McKart who was dominated and stopped, fair enough.

Beyer, Lucas, Siaca and Thobela are former SMW titlists and were dominated or stopped.

I can see Mundine and Andrade easily disposing of Pavlik and Taylor BTW.

 

Pavlik is not a true elite, neither is Taylor. Let's all look at this from an observational stand point. Kessler is already a true elite fighter.

Kessler has lost maybe 6 rounds in his entire career, Pavlik has lost more rounds and this was before the Taylor and Miranda bouts, against lesser opposition. Pavlik's pressure got him the win in wearing down Taylor, but it was otherwise competitive, Kessler is two steps above Jermain Taylor.

 

No, he never fought (moron) Pascal, but I believe it was you who said he sparred with Pascal before the Ikeke fight a while back, and you posted that Andrade had said that Pascal hit harder than Kessler. Please, correct me if I'm confusing you with someone else, but I could swear it was you.

 

Yes, I said he's lost around 6.

4 from Mundine, 1 from Lucas and 1 from another. Pretty impressive.

 

Do you think English is my first language? Make up a better excuse or even better don't throw insults around if you are not ready to get some hurled back at you.

Edit:
But let us both stop this now, because it doesn't do us any good, and honestly I don't like insulting people.