Ken Buchanan V Roberto Duran

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ken Buchanan V Roberto Duran


    Your views on how the fight panned, was panning out....

    Who was on top, how did you have the scoring?

    Any opinions on the frequent use of the head, point deductions - the early knockdown?

    Your take on the low blow, and controversial TKO decision!

    Any views on a rematch - did Ken deserve one - if so, why did it never happen?

    Do you think a rematch would have panned out any different - did Ken have the tools to beat Duran - could Ken have ever beat Duran?

    Plus anything else you'd like to add about this historic match up...

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  2. Mendoza

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    Duran was ahead. Duran was almost a sure winner on points. Duran landed a low blow that created the TKO. I think a re-match was needed.
     
  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Personally, I though Duran was far ahead on points when the stoppage came. Buchanan had his moments, was coming back pretty strong before the stoppage, but by the 13th round i feel Buchanan needed a knockout to win. There should have been a rematch because of the way the fight was stopped, but Buchanan was at his magnificent peak here. Duran would just get better and more well-rounded a few years from this.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Totally agree.
     
  5. teeto

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    Duran was ahead
     
  6. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    I had Duran three or four points up. The stoppage was a bogus outrage, though. They should have fought each other again.
     
  7. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran was ahead by a handful of rounds and he was only warming up.

    Buchanan gave him a real good-to-honest battle before Duran, to Ted Spoons mind, felt bitter about copping one at the end of the 13th and decided to let one stray low.

    No rematch, but still, given the nature of the fight it was not particularly criminal, only in the sense that Buchanan gave him his shot, so he deserved one back. Still, this was a very young Duran, not properly filled out in body or experience.

    As dumb as it sounds, Buchanan may have gotten away lightly with that groin pound.
     
  8. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Buchanan would actually have coped better stylistically against the far less aggressive or wild Duran we saw for the rest of his reign,especially when he was still learning his craft.

    On the other hand i bet Viruet and co would have been brutally slaughtered from start to finish against this younger more aggressive Duran.
     
  9. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I second that sentiment exactly. Don't think Buchanan could have beaten Duran though in a rematch.
     
  10. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But by the same virtue, Duran later refined his game so he was not hit with the the same kind of wild shots that Ken and Esteban managed to tag him with.

    De Jesus was taken care of quicker in the rematch because a younger Duran gave him more physical hassle (he seemed very angry after another left decked him), but the rubber match four years later, only lasting a little longer, was expertly carved out of the blue prints with far less strain.

    Buchanan may not of been bulled about so much, but he would of been suckered in by Duran's better executed feints and mix of boxing/slugging.
     
  11. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's one thing for a fight to end with a low blow, but a low blow AFTER THE BELL? Farcical. It's a shame, because it corrupted what should have been one of the great boxing wins. I had Duran ahead by a few rounds and he was well on course to secure the last two rounds and a decision.

    Possibly, but clearly improbable. Buchanan was horribly difficult to feint or box, so I can only see such things detracting from the slugging approach which would win him the fight. Sophisticated boxing would be for Duran the wrong approach to use against Buchanan, but pressuring him could get results. However, I think Duran would still have beaten Buchanan after that fight, because Buchanan was past his prime and certainly didn't get better after brutal wars with the likes of Jim Watt.
     
  12. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Catch your drift, but it just became a case of Duran knowing when to turn it on. Duran would better size-up Buchanan, feel out the right angle, combination and then make it count.

    You could still be right, but Duran, against the good fighters, became inspired and would map out the situations best needed for their dismantling. Against Buchanan, Duran would box a better way to punish ala Esteban III and Leonard I.
     
  13. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think boxing would just detract from punishing, since any moment where Duran is really thinking is a moment where he plays Buchanan's game. When he was like a machine gun, like against Buchanan, he was better equipped to beat that particular style. Kenny wasn't like Esteban or Leonard, who gave Duran space and time to caculate and strategise.
     
  14. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I haven't sen the whole fight yet and don't have time right now to watch it.
    I have seen the end of the fight and every time I see it I ask my self how in the world did Duran not get DQ'd for such an obivious low blow? Not to take anything away from Duran he is one of the best boxers of all time but he should have been DQ'd that fight.
     
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