Ken Buchanan

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  1. Manassa

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    Could he have beaten Julio Cesar Chavez or Alexis Arguello?
     
  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chavez would of just been that little bit more intense

    Chavez WU15 (9-6)

    Arguello would of struggled with Buchanan's speed

    Buchanan WS15 (8-7)
     
  3. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.......not without a decent suntan....
     
  4. mcvey

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    Id give him a decent shot against Arguello,but think Chavez would walk him down and catch him ,as he did Taylor,Jim Watt went the distance with Arguello ,and he wasnt the speedster Buchanan was ,plus Arguellos feet were pretty slow,so Ken has a real chance of outpointing him,imo.
     
  5. Napuis

    Napuis Straight talkin' mo'fuhha Full Member

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    He would have KOd both.
     
  6. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes both would be winnable fights for him.

    However, would no doubt be the betting underdog for both


    I'd slightly favour Chavez and make him a favourite over Arguello.
     
  7. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no. chavez was too strong, too relentless.

    arguello could box as well a buchanan, but hit way harder.

    ken loses to both.
     
  8. Manassa

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    As I suspected, Buchanan continues to be underrated.
     
  9. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes. His matches with both would have gone 15 rounds (as Buchanan would have done against Duran without the low blow after the bell). Duran has said Buchanan was his best opponent. (I don't know if Roberto ever contradicted that, but I've seen Cholo state this on camera during a post fight interview, given after he made short work of a hapless victim in the mid 1990's, and there was some on-air time to kill.)

    Unlike Chavez and Arguello, Buchanan never sustained a legitimate legal knockdown, and was only stopped in his career by a low blow after the bell. (That punch would have incapacitated Cobb and Hagler.) He would have been too tough for either Arguello or Chavez to legally floor or stop, and that would have made him very difficult for Chavez and Arguello to defeat.
     
  10. Manassa

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    I agree, Duodenum. Buchanan was insanely tough, probably on par with the Monzons, Canzoneris and Gavilans. These fights would almost certainly go the distance, and that's why I see Buchanan beating both. What could Chavez really do to him? Buchanan matched him in stamina and durability, and was equally tenacious. It would come down to Buchanan's superior boxing skills and his ability to fight equally with Chavez up close. Scrappy fight though, very scrappy, but entertaining.

    Arguello would lose to Buchanan due to Buchanan's foot speed, evasiveness and use of angles. I just think he'd be landing more punches, if not as heavily, and edging Arguello at the finish.
     
  11. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    B I N G O!
     
  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Ken has a decent shot against both.
     
  13. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So how highly do you think buchanan ranks at lightweight? And how high in the pantheon of british fighters?
     
  14. Manassa

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    Of retired fighters, Buchanan is my #10 lightweight of all time and rates as one of the very greatest Brits (not done a list yet).
     
  15. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks manassa. Would you say he is the best lightweight that duran fought?