Ken Buchanan

Neither was Watt when Arguello beat him!

 

Buchanan was a very good fighter, one of my favorites of the 70's, he could box and punch, I seen him fighting the garden vs Panamanian Laguna, great boxing from Ken and I seen him vs ChuChu Malave KO in the Felt Forum, he was a top guy Lb4Lb in the 70's too bad he had the misfortune of having Duran come around,still he gave Duran a good fight until the rough guy snuck in a low one but Duran was roughing him. I think he hold his own with Alex A. and Chavez both fights would be close calls

 

Yes, he was!!!

Watt was one of them wierd fighters that got better with age IMO.

 

Watt was 33 he didnt get better with age ,he got good management and home advantage via Mickey Duff and Terry Lawless,Watt was coming to the endwhen he got a last big payday against Arguello,he put on a gutsy performance and retired immediately after,no Lightweight is improving once he is past 30.

 

Montgomery got the job done when the championship was on the line, something Beau never did... That is a big black mark aginst Jack IMO.

 

Watt did, or he would not of had the brains to use his head to beat O'Grady:yep

Watt was in his prime 79 to 81 IMO...

 

Buchanan is a great underrated lightweight, and yes he could beat either, however I find it unlikely.

 

Beau Jack never won the World Championship at Lightweight; Montgomery won general recognition as champ in April 1945, when Ike won the NBA title, but having lost to NYSAC Champ Montgomery in 1944...

But I will concede I would not recognize his reign either (The Ring and New York did though.)

 

Buchanan is underated and it was nice to see him getting some kudos in the lightweight tourney,but it isnt a given he was even the best Lightweight Britain has produced,a few guys my age might argue that Dave Charnley would give him a good row,and was the Scot better than Freddie Welsh? Buchanan beat the guy you rate , Laguna twice,an old Ortiz, Suzuki,and Watt. Welsh beat Attell, Ritchie,Wolgast,White, Cross, Rivers,Wells,and Driscoll ,albeit on a foul.Duran beat how many great lightweights ? I say 2,one contra versially ,was it a punch or a knee? The other also beat him and dropped him twice,incidentally there is a theory that Laguna retired when he did to avoid the looming Duran.A meandering post but I have partaken of wine.

 

You think he was already past it, 6 months removed from the Duran fight and 3 months removed from the Ortiz fight?

 

His fight with Watt was just a really poor performance.

Standing flat footed and blocking punches with his face was an unwise course of action.

 

I'm thinking likewise SP, though I'm not sure Chavez beats a young Duran. Perhaps he does.

Re Buchanan-Chavez: there's no way that Buchanan is going to fight equally with Chavez up close. Buchanan has toughness to survive an inside battle, but not the skills to go even with Chavez there.

Personally, as good a defense as Buchanan had, I don't think it's good enough to keep Chavez off him for long periods, and as such, much of the fighting will be conducted inside, where Chavez will be in command and land the more telling punches.

I'm thinking 9-6 Chavez, possibly 8-7.