Ken Buchanan

You can bet that Duran would be known as "Dirty" Duran.

 

What do you know about logic? Taylor had very fast hands, but he was not, NOT, as good a defensive fighter or as tough as Buchanan. All the while he was unloading on Chavez, and I believe the last second stoppage was pure bull**** by the way, he was taking a terrible beating from JCC. He was ruined as a fighter by that beating. Had he (Taylor ever fought Duran, he would have been even more brutally manhandled. He would never had been able to survive to the 13th round like Buchanan did. Just because a fighter has fast hands doe not mean that he is a defensive whiz too. If he was a good defensive fighter, he would have concentrated on not taking that horrible beating from Chavez, even if it meant not landing quite as many punches as he did and not stationing himself like he did in front of JCC and taking as much as he did. He lacked the ring generalship to go with that great hand speed.

 

I wrote it in 2005 and only included retired fighters.

 

atsch True... but I wrote it in 2005, Calzaghe was not top 10 then

 

Never mind Chavez or Arguello, Could he had beaten DeJesus?. It might sound easy, but if you think that Buchanan is underated, what do you think about DeJesus?

 

Buchanan is underrated in this forum same as other fighters, but not much. I can say that Dejesus, Ramirez..Canto...Olivares..Napoles, are big time underrated in this forum, more than Buchanan.

The problem you have is that you think that if people don't agree with you, then the boxer you support is underrated, and that is not the case.

I still believe that Arguello could have defeated Williams. Why? because his defense was not that great... his left hand down is an invitation for someone like Arguello to hit that chin, and you know it.

I actually think that Arguello woud have more problems with Buchanan than Williams. Can we agree on this? :good

 

No, Meldrick Taylor wasn't tough at all. The man is known for fighting past his limit with broken bones and bleeding insides, but hey, if you say he wasn't as tough..

 

Shake, thoses are the things that fighters all do, is endure and fight throughtheir physical pain. As Ezzard Charles said once "pain is a part of this business. Broken hands, injured eyes broken ribs, bruises, cuts, etc....Don't confuse that with how one man can take a punch better than another. Buchanan was much tougher than Taylor. Do you really think Taylor could have taken the same punishment from a 1972 Roberto Duran that Buchanan did? Like I said, if it weren't for that low blow in the 13th, Ken probably would have gone 15 rounds that night. Nobody did that until Edwin Viruet in 1977.

 

I think we all realize that DeJesus was the Rodrigo Valdez of the 1970's lightweights, both excluded from HOF status by Duran and Monzon. That one would probably go 15 rounds, and come down to whether or not it's fought on the outside or in close. My pick is Ken, but that would be no cinch.

 

To me, the issue wasn't so much that he struck with a low blow, but with a punch which was delivered after the bell rang ending the round. Johnny LoBiance should have given Ken at least five minutes to recover. (It might have just as easily been Duran who was injured by the extraneous action.)

The proper outcome of that one should have been a 15 round decision in favor of Duran, not a stoppage on a blow struck between rounds.

 

I think Ken was shafted royally by the ref. He would have finished the fight and lost a unanimous decision, but thats better than a tko loss. Buchanan should have never had an inside the distance loss on his record.

 

Yes, he was big time shafted by the ref. That fight should have been a UD or any kind of decission in favour of Duran, but not a TKO. To be honest with you.. I did not like the way the fight ended up.

 

Very good analogy. :good

I see it going the distance, and I think both have a chance to win.

 

Based on stylistic differences I'll go with Buchanan over Chavez by UD; and SD over or draw with Arguello.

 

Yes, and I do not consider any lightweight in history as being capable of legally taking him out inside 15 rounds (Duran included). I rate Ken as though he did indeed go 15 complete rounds with Duran. (Let's not forget either, that Buchanan nearly decked Roberto, shortly after LoBianco ruled a knockdown in favor of Duran which Don Dunphy believed to be a slip. I rate Buchanan as I would if he had indeed dropped Duran before DeJesus did. To this day, Duran considers Buchanan as the best opponent he ever defeated, and I agree.)