Ken Norton: "my normal weight is 225-230 and i train down to 206"

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Possibly more if he trained like a modern fighter. But since he didn't, his size is what it is.
     
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  2. BCS8

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    Muhammad Ali 212 lbs beat Ken Norton 205 lbs by SD in round 12 of 12

    https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Ken_Norton_(2nd_meeting)
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Partly.

    Losing 10-15 pounds of what is already lean, functional weight is unlikely to make him stronger. Nor would starving or dehydrating himself.
     
  4. BCS8

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    Fixed it ;)
     
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  5. BCS8

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    If Fury had a good trainer who cracked the whip on his lazy training habits he'd be 275lb of muscle instead of flab ...
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But realistically he wouldn't be 205 pounds in modern era and BCS8 was trying to imply Norton was a small Heavyweight "soaking wet at 205 pounds" which is not true.

    Norton was a well built Heavyweight naturally bigger than someone like Usyk with a longer reach and more power.
     
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  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    If Ali was 200 pounds heavier, he would have worse stamina. I propose we use Obese Ali for all future head to head matchups.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shucks, that is probably the origin of his chin problems. That will leave you fragile.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That is a fair interpretation, IMO.

    That said, I don't think that's what @BCS8 actually meant. Nor did I interpret it that way at the time. It sounded more like it was just rhetorical hyperbole of the sort that we often see in Classic fistfights. :cursing2:
     
  11. BCS8

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    I don't think Classic is ready for Obese Ali vs Dustin Nichols "The Thunder Down Under" showdown
     
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  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The hero Classic doesn't want, but needs.
     
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    Possibly you have put your finger on it. There's a fair bit of evidence I believe that one of the reasons why Foreman's chin improved so much in the 90s is because he stopped dehydrating himself and sapping his stamina like that.
     
  14. gfghfgh

    gfghfgh New Member Full Member

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    That would probably require a horse dosages of Tren, but oh boy would that be a sight to behold. Might rival the legendary calf-lifting, jeep-pulling old timer strength.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We just seem to clash on alot of subjects TBH it is what it is but he just seems to aggravate me and I'm just being honest but it is what it is personality sometimes clash.
     
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