Ken Norton Overrated or Underrated

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  1. sppedboy22

    sppedboy22 Member Full Member

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    Is Ken Norton Overrated or Underrated
     
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  2. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone who can make an argument that they beat Ali, 3 times out of 3, is not overrated
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think people tend to underrate him because of his losses to Foreman and Shavers . He did have a great 15 round fight with Holmes after Ken was a bit past it, but I understand those who think his sole skill was to make Ali look bad, I don't agree with it ,but I understand it.
     
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  4. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    He beat Muhammad Ali three times and only got credit for it once, then beat peak Larry Holmes and didn't get credit for it at all. I don't know about 'underrated' but I'll laugh in the face of anyone who claims 'overrated' because he got sparked by two ATG punchers.
     
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  5. Noel857

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    Very much underrated would have been a stand out in any other era
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He definitely didn't beat Holmes.
     
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  7. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    He absolutely beat Holmes.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    What's your card?
     
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  9. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    Can't give you my round-by-round, but I agreed with the judge that had it 143-142 for Norton.
     
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  10. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I got one loss and two wins for Ali.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can't agree with you, it was a great fight but I had Holmes up at least 2 points. I think a younger Norton would have won.
     
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  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    George Foreman said,,,"in his mind Ali never really beat Ken Norton",,, there's a good argument for that. When I watched the rematch I thought Ali had lost. Ali definitely lost the 3rd fight.
     
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  13. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    To be Alis nemisis over 3 fights for me erases the Foreman mismatch, Ali could not truly get the better of Norton, no other boxer ever had Alis number like Norton did.

    Norton of course never looked in shape for a bout, no muscular definition.........;)
     
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  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Norton lost to Holmes by two points (Kenny gave away too many early rounds to Larry), but he indeed gave him the fight of his life (Larry admits it regularly).

    Though I thought Ali won that 2nd fight, Norton indubitably won numbers 1 and 3. And looked pretty damn great in the first fight especially. He also beat a prime Jimmy Young, which is a no joke win for anybody.

    Ken Norton was an ATG, in fact I mentioned in another thread that I had trouble putting him under Patterson on my ATG list.
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is the rare guy that manages to be both. He suffered brutal prime knock-outs, including against one journeyman. On the other hand, you could make the argument that he beat Ali three times, and Holmes.

    He is a legit pseudo-great.
     
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