Ken norton vs floyd patterson

jowcol · Mar 13, 2018

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I think we're really on the same page here. You make a good point about the Patterson-Bonavena fight. That Patterson, at 37, was able to come back from a knockdown and win the decision, albeit close, in a fight against a rugged man who was still good and had given both Frazier and Ali fits is testimony to his skills and abilities as a fighter. When Floyd was mentally 'up' for a fight, he was a hard man to beat. Incidentally, Patterson during his prime years was someone we seldom saw in the ring. From the time of his first bout with Ingo in 1959 (TKO by 3) he appeared in the ring once in the Johansson rematch in 1960 (KO 5), twice in 1961 - Ingo (KO 6) ,and McNeeley (KO 4), once in 1962 - Liston (KO by 1) and ditto for 1963. Twenty rounds over four years. And he suffered three of his stoppage losses during this time. It has been said, and I agree, that many of Floyd's best victories came after he had lost the title. He seemed to be most vulnerable in the earlier rounds against big punchers. Norton had decent power, but tended to be a slow starter, usually coming on stronger in the later rounds. This would give Patterson a good chance of surviving the early rounds and getting off to an early lead. Norton's size and body attack would probably give him the middle rounds. The last rounds would decide it and I would look for the speed of a younger Patterson to tip the fight in his favor.
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Great points JW! Virtually every time he got knocked down what did he do? He got up and won the fight!
Outside of INGO 1 and the two Liston's he was NEVER in any serious trouble (maybe that 2nd KD in Quarry 1 but he got up and proceeded to kick Jerry's a r s e.
He rose 7 times against Ingo, not to mention Ingo's behind the head punch which any competent ref would have given Floyd extra time to recover. And...Liston never put him in a face down 'puddle'! Rising both times; Sonny said he'd NEVER hit anyone so hard.
How anyone can give my HOF Floyd any c r a p is beyond me??
Eras considered, Floyd would have been Blasting Norton with shots in a GOOD fight.
My $0.02

InMemoryofJakeLamotta · Mar 13, 2018

I'd say Norton...they were close in skill, but I think Norton's superior size and strength make him the favorite here. Patterson was a hard puncher, IMO, but I don't think he was Shavers or Foreman level. So I think Norton grabs the decision or perhaps stops Patterson late.

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