Ken Norton vs Rex Layne, Bob Satterfield and other punchers

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Many people on this site tend to pick against Ken Norton when he is up against punchers. I would be interested to see how people would rate his chances against:

    Tony Gallento

    Elmer Ray

    Rex Layne

    Bob Satterfield

    Ingo Johansen

    Big Cat Williams

    Jerry Quarry (prime)

    Let em rip
     
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I dont consider quarry a puncher. that said, I defintley feel quarry in his prime would have taken norton.

    I like norton to TKO galento on cuts..galento was just too wide open and crude, but galento has a punchers chance.

    I like C williams to demolish norton by devastating one round knockout

    Bob satterfield takes ken norton out quick and early


    I like norton to outpoint rex layne by unanimous decision as long as he doesnt get caught by laynes right hand, but its very possible layne could wear norton down. layne was a beast at his peak, he never gave up and always kept plodding.


    I like elmer ray to dispatch norton in 4-5 rounds, Ray was very tough because he was a long armed puncher swarmer like dempsey...and these styles are nightmares for boxers who fight only off the back foot. Ray doesnt need to get inside to do damage to norton.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Quarry was on the way down by then and about 10lbs over his optimum weight,prime for prime I think he takes Norton. Norton beats Galento who was wide open ,and too slow to follow up if he hurt you,but the others beat him ,as his trainer Eddie Futch said in a KO interview, he allways had issues against punchers ,and froze up.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    Norton gets a very hard rap, a man who arguably beat Ali 3 out of 3 times and Holmes once, Quarry and Young. Some facts about his opponents

    Quarry - supposedly past prime, but Norton is 2years OLDER, Quarry could still punch and was battered pillar to post in a completely 1 sided contest yes some fools on here think he wins if hes a few years younger

    Holmes - guess what Holmes could punch and Norton brawled with him for 15rounds and it was an SD

    Foreman - arguably most devastating offense at HW ever, getting taken out by Foreman isnt terrible

    Shavers - Norton was a few months from his 35th birthday against arguably the biggest puncher ever

    Bobick - finnished his career with 42kos and 38-0 when Norton faced him

    Cooney - was shot at 36 (nearly 37)

    Garcia - avenged his KO loss

    Ron Stander - pretty big puncher
     
  5. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its not that Norton would lose to every puncher some of them he would be able to keep at bay but when pressured by a puncher, Norton could not back up. Quarry would have beaten him in his prime, Quarry was shot at that point due to drugs and booze and his new girl with the same habits. Galento had a hell of a hook but slow but I could see Tony doing it. Bobick was stopped by Norton but devasted by Knoetzee. Bobick was a stand up stiff fighter and very easy to hit . Satterfield could KO KEN....like I said some punchers Ken would beat like Big Cat
     
  6. SuzieQ49

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    quarry was so out of shape it wasnt even funny. he took the fight on 7 days notice and showed up a blubbery tubby 207lb with rolls on his midsection..,...and looked awful, shot to hell. norton couldn even floor him, lol.
     
  7. SuzieQ49

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    LOL
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Quarry had a majorly f'd up back and was also taking muscle relaxers. He was totally unprepared to fight. For further encouragement, Norton had heard Quarry was a racist and wanted to the kill him.

    And Ron Stander.... a puncher? Hmmm...
     
  9. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe that a prime Norton would have beaten everybody on this list decisively. The only possible exception is Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams, but even against Williams I would have to go with Ken. I give Williams an outside chance only because of he is the one guy on your list whose size compliments his power.

    Norton has substantial size advantages against Galento, Ray, Satterfield, Johanson and Quarry. A prime Quarry would have given Norton a good fight, but he couldn't have beaten Ken.

    I don't believe that Layne had the talent to hang in there with a fighter like Norton. As I understand, Layne was also somewhat slow and easy to hit.
     
  10. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stander was definitely a heavy puncher...there is no doubt about that. Unfortunately, Stander lacked the world-class talent to compliment his punching power, so he remained on the club level for his entire career.
     
  11. Arka

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    I always thought he had a world class chin,given he could take the bombs of a Shavers, and a solid heavyweight punch.However his conditioning was terrible going into fights.
     
  12. kenmore

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    I agree that Stander was a big puncher, however he was too slow and too short to hit Norton. In their 1976 fight, Stander's powerful but wild punches missed Norton's head by a mile. Thus, this fight doesn't say much about Norton's capacity to stand up to a puncher.

    Norton did indeed have trouble with exceptionally hard hitting, strong men who could back him up and unload their bombs. I emphasize however that these guys had to be exceptionally strong and powerful in order to trouble Ken.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Yeah we are all fools and you are the man .Quarry retired for 2 1/2 years after the Norton defeat,he was in his prime.:patsch

    Its not your age ,its the mileage on your clock, Dumbo,Quarry had two stoppages against him from Ali,the second one a painful drubbing,two real good thrashings from Frazier ,and had been dropped three fights previously by unheralded Joe Alexander,he was in such good shape that he retired after the Norton fight.:nono
     
  14. Mendoza

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    I'd take Norton in every match, but I would not expect him to win all of them.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    I'll take it a step further. Norton had to be intimidated too.