ken norton vs ron lyle...

Lyle by TKO

 

I think Lyle is getting too much credit for his fight with Foreman, where Foreman seemed to not turn up and his Shavers win.

 

:thumbsup I did hear rumours Foreman hurt his back And almost slipped a disc lifting 600LB BULLS @his Texas Ranch - only a few days before jetting down to Vegas like a G. :smoke

What do you think m8?? :think


Foreman Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:rasta

 

I'm going with the Marine.

Kenny worked hard for almost every round.

Ron, had a tendency to get lazy in there. And if things didn't go his away,
he would usually stop working.

10 Rounds,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Norton 7-3-0
12 or 15 rounds,,,,,,,Norton TKO 11

 

Norton was a slower starter than Frazier, aside from the Bobick anomaly, and sustained as many as 15 career knockdowns. Lyle wiped out Rondon in two (right before Vincente went the full ten with Shavers), ended the career of Mathis in two, and eliminated Middleton in three. He could start fast and make Ken pay for starting slow.

We all know that Norton tended to freak when he realized, "This guy can hurt me!" Leroy Caldwell said Ron's power was comparable to Foreman's, and George, when pressed to choose, seems to settle on Lyle as the hardest puncher he ever competed against.

There's no evidence Ken could have ever withstood Ron's level of power, and Lyle was a competent enough boxer to decision Middleton in a rematch, Ellis, Peralta, Stan Ward and Bugner (not to mention leading a still prime Ali after ten). He'd be skilled enough to hang around and put something deadly over if he didn't annihilate Norton within the first three rounds.

Does anybody think Ron and his management avoided Ken? He took on Bonavena, a still prime Jerry Quarry, Jimmy Young twice, Foreman, Shavers, Bugner and Cooney. He didn't avoid any style or reputation. Norton and his management, on the other hand, distinctly picked their way through the minefield of heavy sluggers during the mid 1970s, except when he had no choice in facing one to have a chance at winning the title. Why did he not take on Lyle and Shavers during the mid 1970s? Caracas gives us our answer.

 

Duo,,

As usual,,,,,,,,,excellent points...

But, between February 9, 1973 thru July 16, 1974.

Starting with his loss to Jerry Quarry,

Ron Lyle went 10-1-1 (2 KO's).
He wasn't knocking everybody out.

Bob Stallings, Lou Bailey and Wendell Joseph (not exactly big names)
all took him the distance.

 

Stallings at least was far more talented than many realize, had that monstrous upset of Shavers the year after Lyle, and decisioned Mac Foster in his very next bout after Ron. He nearly handed Mathis his first defeat, and did inflict Wepner's first defeat on Chuck. Bob could be a real pain in the ass.

15 year veteran Bailey was bounced by Ron seven times (improving on JQ by a margin of one knockdown). Lou would go on to last the distance against Duane Bobick, Bonavena and Kirkman.

Wendell Newton was stopped three times in 36 outings. He quit against De Piccoli in Italy, and complained he was having trouble seeing after going five with Bonavena. Nobody else stopped him after Leotis took seven to put him out in late 1969. He was on a six match unbeaten streak which included Terry Hinke's first defeat in nine rounds.

I'm not inclined to penalize Lyle for going the distance with any of these skilled and seasoned professionals, as they could all be competent survivors. (In fact, Foreman would have been extremely well served to have been extended in this manner prior to Kinshasa.)

 

Id take Norton in this one. Better defense, and I think Lyle would give Kenny a chance to get into the fight. He wouldnt jump on Kenny and put as much pressure as a Foreman did or Shavers.

Norton UD

 

ron lyle knocks ken norton out......... norton couldnt handle punchers