Ken Norton: What if?...

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  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just yesterday I received a great revelation, when it comes to fantasy fights: what if Ken Norton didn't have the freeze-up against the big punchers. He would've knocked out Garcia and never had the rematch. But how would the fights with Foreman, Shavers, and Cooney be different?
     
  2. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loses to Foreman and he was already on the downside when he fought Cooney and Shavers anyway.
     
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  3. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but does he give Foreman a tough fight? I still think he had enough left to beat Shavers. I think he would definitely lose to Cooney, but I think it might take a few rounds.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No way, what the hell could he do differernt v Foreman? He didn`t have the chin to stay in their and Foreman kept cutting the ring off with his arms out stretched pushing the shots away, complete dominance.
     
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  5. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I used to think that he froze against those guys but I don't think that any more. Against Shavers he fought a stupid fight; it was obvious that he was trying to cover up and let Shavers punch himself out. He got caught because he didn't know how to fight that way. I would really like to know if Bill Slayton was in on it or if Norton improvised.
    Against Cooney he got caught by a bigger, stronger ,faster, younger guy that started fast.
     
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  6. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Norton did have a fair chin. He never hit deck vs. Ali and Holmes, and before you say they weren't big punchers, it's true. But Ali put Foreman on the deck, so.... Norton also took a going over vs. Quarry, who was a big puncher, and he stopped Quarry, I think Norton could make it pretty competitive for a while.
     
  7. William Walker

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    he was washed up vs. Cooney, it's easy to see after about...20 seconds
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    You saw the effects of the few punches Foreman hit Norton with, how the hell was he going to take that?
     
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  10. William Walker

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  11. William Walker

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    Norton would have been eager to erase everyone's memories of the Caracas Caper. In addition to that, since then, Muhammad Ali and Ron Lyle had exposed many of Foreman's vulnerabilities, that would probably have motivated Norton as well.
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I think a prime Norton would've beaten Cooney and Shavers.
     
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  13. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So... What? Foreman had a much better Chin than Norton, George was tired it had nothing to do with his chin
     
  14. Charlietf

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    So... What? Foreman had a much better Chin than Norton, George was tired it had nothing to do with his chin
     
  15. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can't see it mate ,and believe me that i would like
     
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