Ken Norton would easily defeat the bum Klitschkos

Yes Harol, I admit that I don't follow basketball. With the advances insports medicine and training and nutrition, I do assume the old timers couldn't compete in todays era, but since I don't follow the sport I don't have a strong opinion on that point.
I know boxing. That's my favorite sport and I've been following it since 1989. The reason I say his opinions have no merit isn't because he has a different opinion than me. Its because if you read his other posts its obvious he trashes all fighters who don't have enough skin tone for his tastes.
Debating the quality of Klitschkos opponents and there place in history as an educated fan is one thing. Trashing every single white fighter ever and including the Klitschkos in that lowers the merit and honesty of his posts and opinions.
I'll agree to disagree with you on the K bros, and I do enjoy reading your posts:good

 

If your going to use other fighters surviving to prove your point, shouldn't you use guys with worse chins than Norton?

 

Yeah, that guy needs to get a clue. Obviously if you are talking an old Vitali with a bum shoulder he may not knock out Norton, even if Norton is over 20 lbs lighter than Chisora with a much smaller head/neck structure.
Wlad may not ko Ken either assuming Norton suddenly has fast feet and is content to runand be defensive all night while letting Wlad win round after round by default.
Good points. I mean Tyson actually lost twice to a former Cruiser who was a touch lighter than Haye, so imagine what Kenny would do to Tyson then, right?atsch
How does Nortons chin and physical measurables match up to the fleet footed Haye, anyway?:think
"Little dogs bark but the bus keeps rolling"- Wladimir Klitschko

You really seem to know very little to nothing. I assume your user name is supposed to be ironic

 

That's not a fair statement. Neither Klitschko ever lowered theirselves to fighting Audley Harrison

 

Point taken

 

You still don't get it so let's make it pretty simple.

Taking your new inputs that don't add nothing to the previous matter at hand:

Dempsey was a dirty old mauler who absolutely busted Willard from every conceivable angle. I have footage of that confrontation and feel for Willard. Thank All Mighty Lord there was Gene Tunney to release us from Dempsey in a pair of gruelling fights but still Jack Sharkey had to pay fking headbutter and low-hitter. living elbow-smacker.

Tyson is the petrol motion and the reason that he's so dangerous is b'cause he gat to punch hard in combos and Holmes came in so relaxed thangs he said he almost got his lockerroom cracked with a fist - at that comeback asa he got hurt he was in trouble cause he couldn't move cause he gat to stay he couldn't stay cause he gat to move on IMPOSSIBLE TASK!!! 4th round the shark moving on deep waters caught the whale.

Peter is not a nightmare, he always was a neckless Garbage, only those who saw his rematch with Toney got beffudled but not me, the guy hatched and rabbit punched his way to fight Vitaly and that is it - Vitaly worked him with one arm until he gave up cause he didn't know what to do to escape the smashing jab.

Brewster fought his heart out against a mechanical Wladimir who spent himself for 3 rounds and absolutely waisted himself in the 4th tryin to take Lamon outa there. Lamon held on and on the countermove had Klitschko hanging on very unstable feet and just about to fall on anything like on ref Antoine Byrd and couldn't get up from his own seat in the corner as Dr Margaret Goodman acknowledged it by pure exhaustion.

Sanders sniped Wlad like he wanted with that heavy left cross getting first, repositioning first and once getting his victim hurt, assaulting him until he was about to crumble into a million pieces, all of this at midrange and at upright stance.lefty vs orthodox giants.

Purity Klitschko I can't talk about.

I never called Norton a bum but he had no background and he was born to the world thru Eddie Futch and the night of the broken jaw, that is Ali. If Norton beat men that are much better than the Klitschkos on the outside game, please let me know who they were cause me not being a Klitschko fan but a fan of the 70- 80s HWs surely would be enlightened.

My opinion of Haye and Chisora is irrelevant since I already mentioned too many names here who were first brought up by you when this was all about Norton RIP and the Klitschko bros, one retired and facing almost civil war and another holding almost every HW title. I personally like Deontay and Haye.

 

Norton couldn't KO Jack O'Halloran, Haye and Chisora are better than he ever was.

Also, it does make sense, as Chisora has a good chin and Haye ran and is as slippery as a fish. Norton would be a sitting duck for a KO with his glass jaw and **** defence.

You have a very one dimensional view of boxing.

 

You know nothing of this sport of boxing and can't analyze styles worth a ****.

Norton destroyed Jerry Quarry who was avoided by Goroge Foreman. Quarry beat Patterson twice, Buster Mathis and put away Ernie Shavers in the first round.
Norton past prime gave prime Holmes , one of the greatest HWs to ever live, a close call ,losing by only a round and he beat the greatest HW of all time.

The guys to easily beat Norton were come forward, pressure fighters who let their hands go.
Give Norton space to work like Wlad would and he is a nighmare match-up.

Norton had good movement and a gittery style with a fast snappy and jab and fast hooks. He had excellent upper body mobility and good head movement He used the ring well to get in and out.
His jab will get off before Wlads. Wlad can't ko you unless he's rooted into the canvas.

Williamson , a poor mans Norton kept Wlad in motion preventing him from throwing right hand bombs. Wlad was so confused he got dropped trying to catch Williamson and was on his way to a loss had it not been for the head clash.
Pianeta hung in there for 6 rounds and had Wlad backing up throwing sloppy, wild hooks. Brewster destroyed him with hooks and another guy Nortons size who also used latteral movement bombed Wlad out in 2 round.
Norton had a devastaing counter left hook and you need not worry about Nortin getting backed up, Wlad was afraid to back up David Haye and would only engage him in the middle of the ring as he does with everybody.
Norton would be all over Wlad, circling, side to side, in and out and Wlad has never proven to be able to handle such fulid movement. The first shot Norton lands on his glass chin is enough to turn the fight.

Who did Wlad beat that had a record as good as Nortons? Which guy did he beat that was on the level as Norton? Where re the wins on Wlads record on par with Nortons?

 

Big whoop. Wlad slaughtered Brewster in the rematch and he was still in diapers when he ran out of gas against Purity. Young Joe Louis, considered invincible got outboxed and K'oed by over the hill Max Schmelling. Very common for young fighters. Ali was K'oed by tiny Henry Cooper. Angelo Dundee admitted he slashed Ali's gloves open to give Ali time to recover. Also, what does Steward being Wlad's trainer have to do with American fans and commentators being butt hurt that no American has been able to win heavyweight titles in ages? Americans have, not all but most, a difficult time accepting that the most prestigious title in sports, the heavyweight champion of the world, no longer belongs to them. It is especially humbling that said foreign champion is from their arch nemesis, the old Soviet Union. Stop being such sore losers and just enjoy Wlad's greatness while you can.

 

I think Jerry Quarry would have beaten Wlad

 

I think he would take out Wlad rather easy just like Sanders and Brewster did, but I think he would have a harder time with Vitali.

 

Jerry Quarry would have trouble beating the Arreolas, Adameks and Stirvernes of today. He would get crushed in a mismatch by Wlad.

 

Norton would have been a great match against both. I agree. He had enough power to keep them honest and would probably have withstood their best shots.

 

Boxing evolves, Wlad would destroy all those guys you mentioned. Just because they gave each other good exciting fights it doesn't mean they are better than modern day heavies, it just means they were evenly matched. You know nothing and are simply driven by paranoia and blind hatred.