Ken Norton Would Get Slept by Povetkin in Every Universe

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Who wins and how?

  1. Norton loses by KO

    30.8%
  2. Norton loses on PTS

    3.8%
  3. Povetkin wins on PTS

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  4. Povetkin wins by KO

    65.4%
  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    One reason Ken KO’d Bobick (no I’m not doubting he could punch hard 70s super fans) was because he hit him in the throat, watch the punch that gets Bobick in slow mo I’m positive this is the guy whose Adam’s apple Ken
    disintegrated lol.
     
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  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    But isn’t the elephant in the room Norton’s chin with the Huck comparisons? (Among other things but still…) wasn’t Huck quite renowned for his chin? And that’s the 200lbs division that Norton, Ali and Foreman etc would all probably be in if they didn’t want money fights at HW.
     
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  3. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    I wonder how and when Povetkin became an ATG and why nobody told me....
     
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    I don’t think anyone is saying he’s an ATG just a very good pro fighter with the right attributes to beat Ken Norton who has his flaws and is not an ATG either.
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Povetkin would probably beat Norton, but tbh he is getting overrated. Norton is just chinny, I would pick solid guys like prime Larry Donald or Witherspoon to beat Povetkin. Povetkin literally struggled with an ancient Donald, but nobody really knows about this
     
  6. BCS8

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    Povetkin would give Ali a great fight. Don't delude yourself.
    Fair.
    Buddy, you need to urgently speak to the guy who made this comment then

    "and barely beat Marco Huck (a cruiser) in a fight he arguably lost."

    Wanna guess who started the "yabbut he lost to" game?

    I'm cool with it. Huck > Garcia easily.
     
  7. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Winning every round = struggled? Some weird fanfic you're writing out here
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

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    Norton was better than Witherspoon in most departments, Witherspoon had power but not like that. Wouldn't be suprised but I wouldn't make him the favorite
    He didn't win every round, was made to miss several times, Donald held his own in the pocket instead of getting overwhelmed and he was also 40 lol. The fact it was even competitive let's you know prime Donald could beat him. Its the exact same logic why I think prime Povetkin massacres aj, because aj struggled with the old version.

    Stylistically how many prime movers has povetkin even beaten ? Its actually a good question.
     
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  9. CooperKupp

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    Well said! I always liked Povetkin but he did cause a lot of the ugliness in that fight! I actually think for the majority of that fight (Especially after feeling Wlad’s power) he was kinda trying to survive the full 12 rather than actually going for the KO.

    I do think that performance kinda lit a fire underneath him, and he came back with a vengeance. Too bad we didn’t get Wlad vs 2015 Povetkin because THAT would’ve been fireworks.

    Anyway… Povetkin KO’s Norton worse than Cooney did. Probably in 3-4 rounds.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    Great post and nails it on the head :beer-toast1:
     
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  11. bolo specialist

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    Garcia wasn't some scrub, he had more physical/athletic talent than Huck & was a ranked hw across 4 consecutive years, which actually makes him more accomplished @hw than Huck was. What he didn't have was the option of dropping down to a lower weight class & building a career solely vs. opponents under 200lb like Huck did.

    He demonstrated a good chin vs. opponents under 200lb, but he was still stopped/KO'd multiple times under 200. Norton was only ever stopped once by an opponent under 200 & his chin was good enough to withstand 54 total rnds vs. 2 of the best hws that ever lived w/o ever being dropped once.
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  12. BCS8

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    Wanna bet that the guys Huck fought at cruiser were bigger than the guys that Garcia fought at heavy?

    Big deal, so what? Glowacki would have beaten Garcia like a drum
     
  13. George Crowcroft

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    The average Huck opponent prior to his more permanent move to heavy in 2018, is 198lbs. His average on the whole is 203 (which also included someone 335). The average for Garcia, is 194. Extremely comparable, except Huck was a much better fighter. This average, while clearly heavier for Huck, is also skewed because a good deal of the sub 200lbs guys Huck was facing were cutting water weight while there no point doing so for Garcia's opponents above 175.

    And why even bother mentioning that he didn't fight at heavyweight? Who cares? Huck was bigger, fought bigger people and Garcia started off at 160.

    Lol at suggesting Norton has a better chin than Huck.
     
  14. Journeyman92

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    Huck's opponents (such as Usyk) were all coming typically 10lbs higher then what it says on the tin, some higher it's standard practice, they've also to be 200lbs besides boiling down have lost a deal of regular weight, in a time machine these are 210-215lbs fighters and that's not weird to say - Norton's chin is interesting, I remember Young hurting him with no follow up, Garcia stopped him and after Foreman he didn't pick up the phone for Lyle and waited till the $ shots dried up to finally fight guys like Shavers and Cooney, Though he did have his mindset issues, KN bullied overmatched sparring partners and was fed 175lbers in the gym to help with his confidence so it may have been more then just his chin.
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

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    Yeah, for sure. And I'd bet 10lbs is lowballing it. At 200lbs, that's only 5% of their bodyweight, which is pretty small fry in today's game. Thankfully boxing is nowhere near as bad as wrestling or MMA.
     
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