Kenny "Jawbreaker" Norton vs Carl "The Truth" Williams

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by PolishAssasin, Jan 30, 2025.


Who wins?

  1. Carl Williams

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  2. Ken Norton

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I forgot the Tillis fight was from a right hand but usually it was left hooks that were William's kryptonite and not right hands from memory vs Weaver, Ferguson, and Tyson of course.

    Williams also had considerable power in his own right hand and may trouble Norton if he landed flush with it.

    I just don't see Norton having an easy time with Williams he's very tall with an extremely long reach with some power in that right hand.

    I can see Norton wearing down Williams with body shots and stopping him at some point in the 2nd half of the fight but I do see Williams prior to that giving a good account of himself.
     
  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMO, that’s what he’s most vulnerable to, and that’s also Norton best weapon, the overhand right set up by body jabs.
    Williams leaves his chin high up and has his left hand low, Norton would jab low and show himself low down in general, make Williams accustomed to that position by jabbing to the body and getting low, and then fake the jab to the body, get low and come over the top with the overhand right.
     
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  3. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    We both know that Tillis had a tendency to underperform and put on his running shoes for most fights. He didn't peak until 8 years into his career, tried hard for one night alone, and really just went back to being a guy who'd lose to anybody named. But you see what I see, he stunned Page, he's gotta hit at least pretty well to do that. Then combine that with Williams having a leaky chin, and you understand why he went down.

    I see the push now, I was a bit tired went I sent this, apologies.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    It's all good no stress at all.


    I'm genuinely not trying to be contrarian but when a heavyweight catches a guy the way he did Page they can basically all punch.

    I'd agree Tillis' peak "performance" was Tyson but it definitely wasn't his "peak". He was a strange cat, he showed enormous heart rising from that Shavers knockdown which was reasonably comparable to the Holmes one. He showed quite a bit of fight when Greg Page started to really smash him, there was quite a bit of animosity on show in that one. In some other fights he was terrible tho, such as vs Mike Weaver.

    Ironically his personal performance against an incomplete but rapidly getting there Tyson. You had two guys that were seldom willing to dig deep within themselves going to the well for one of the rare times in their life.
     
  5. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    My man Norton is sure money here.

    If he was able to confound and frustrate Ali, he would run circles around a courageous but outmatched Williams.

    I dont discard Kenny getting a late stoppage.
     
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