Kerry Kayes reveals why he asked Joe Gallagher to leave the gym

Doesn't sound like too bitter a break up to me, Kayes did Gallagher a good turn which wasn't reciprocated, so they called it quits.

Kayes seems like a real straight shooter of a bloke, the sort that can sometimes **** people off, especially if mutual friends have had a fallout (like Billy and Ricky) who both expect him to side with them.

 

Kerry Kayes is a good friend of mine , I have known about the situation within the gym for sometime and I have read with interest comments on various forums posted within the last few weeks, many of them inaccurate and ill informed. Kerry at no time has asked me to come on here,nor do I know if he would thank me for coming on here as he is capable of fighting his own battles . I am not going to blow smoke up his arse and if I felt Kerry was in the wrong I would tell him , but I have been at Bettabodies when the fighters have been there, heard their comments and Kerry's concerns so i am possibly better placed than many on the forums for knowing the back ground of this situation.

I must say I have no personal problem with Joe Gallagher, I have met him several times at Kerry's gym and various boxing shows, he is always very cordial and passionate about boxing and is without doubt a talented trainer , but thought I would address a couple of the issues regarding this situation that Kerry tried to explain in an informal conversation with Terry Dooley and some points that had been omitted.

In a way there is two separate things here, CNP Professional the business and Kerry Kayes the strength coach and conditioner, with Kerry being the owner and public face of CNP things possibly get confused.

Kerry offered Joe use of the gym, his vast knowledge of training ,nutrition plus his assistance within the training camp . In addition CNP the company would pay for all of the associated costs of operating the boxing gym and nutritional products. the gym is branded with CNP logos and the boxers and training team are asked in exchange to promote CNP by wearing the associated clothing ,acknowledgement of support in interviews etc, the gym has cost CNP ltd in excess of £ 60,000 since Joe has been using the facility. Kerry wanted to be involved with the camp, he particularly enjoys working with boxers and I have been in his company around four round undercard fighters and world champions, he treats all of the boxers and indeed all people the same irrespective of their levels of success, it could be Ricky hatton or Ricky Butcher and the way he deals with the individual would be the same, ego's do not impress.
Without going over old ground Kerry has covered, he effectively felt pushed out the training set up which is not what he wanted, furthermore the simple arrangements to promote CNP were not always being honoured. Kerry has mentioned that Joe wanted to do the lot in training camp, bare in mind in boxing circles Kerry has worked on a far bigger stage and inturn holds great knowledge of the game to which he doesnt really credit himself with. This is a real shame as apart from the obvious benefits in strength coaching and nutritional advice Kerry can bring to the table a second pair of eyes can pick up on things possibly un-noticed and work to the camps and ultimately the fighters advantage.

Over the years I have followed a lot of boxers, been to various gyms and remember the late George Francis who was possibly Britains best trainer having a similar ' do all ' approach in the camp, but eventually brought in Keith Morton who was a martial arts, strength, conditioning coach to work with Frank Bruno on the Lewis and McCall fights , two of Franks best performances,to which George acknowledged Keith's input.

Kerry took a step back from the corners but I know for a fact a number of the boxers asked him would he still work their corners but didnt want to be seen as ' cherry picking' fights.

Kerry has mentioned in his article with Terry the various additional problems with promotional items. The artcle mentions is this 'a case of sour grapes for losing a thriving stable?'

As a businessman Kerry could have carried on with the arrangement ,CNP would of been continued to be associated with the boxers and the Gallagher camp and Joe would still be in the gym now rent free, but as a person not just a businessman Kerry felt let down by Joe, not everything is about money or product promotion, its about respect and gratitude and a sense of fairplay which sadly seemed lacking. Joe could not go and give Kerry 60k back CNP spent supporting the gym and he is not expecting him to, but ten minutes with a boxer on the pads at the Arndale is hardly a big ask or a name check for the company in interviews.

Dont forget Kerry could of stayed with the Hatton camp after Billy was dismissed, the publicity on a world stage CNP could of achieved if he stayed for the last two fights can not be overlooked, but again its not all about publicity or money, it was again principal and sense of fairplay that led Kerry to the court case involving Billy and The Hattons.


To answer some of the other rumours/ questions

Kerry has not masterminded some big comeback of Billy Graham, nor does Billy have any imediate plans to get back into the sport , whilst his battered hands may of healed the emotional wounds of the courtcase will take longer. Billy has expressed an interest that at some time he woudl like to get back into boxing but no boxers have been lined up.

Joe did not owe Kerry rent as CNP funded the boxing gym.

Comment has been passed that the boxers may have paid subs to use the facility but again this is not a requirement of Kerry's as CNP funded all costs associated with the up keep of the gym

There is no sour grapes that the camp are not training at Bettabodies, Kerry enjoys working with boxers and all the lads in the camp know where he is if they require any assistance

 

hello kerry.

to be honest, that was a lot of balderdash and skirted around the point. i just want to give a shortened version for the posters who won't read the novel you just posted.

all i got from that post was that gallagher simply didn't need kayes and kayes wanted to be more involved. gallagher was having none of that so kayes told him to get out of his gym.

 

richie, that seems quite fair. Infact, what you say stands up a great deal because I wasn't even aware CNP were involved with a lot of the fighters which I really should have been because they should have been getting more credit for that kind of involvement.

 

Absolute bollocks.

As usual.

 

Show some respect, hes been posting on forums for 10 years.

 

Lirva is a twat m8

 

All the Team Murray/Team Crolla etc shirts were CNP branded.

 

So you're something to do with Gallagher then are you twat-boy?

Gallagher didnt need Kayes? yeah a man trying to hold down a day job swell as trying to coach 7/8 pro boxers to domestic and world honours doesn't NEED a rent free gym. A gym which was specifically refurbished and kitted out for him? He doesn't need the wealth of nutritional knowledge and the free products that comes with Kayes and his CNP company?

Plonked atsch

Gallagher was asked several times about the date, with regards to the GNC shop and doing a bit of free advertisement and each and every time didn't have the courtesy to get back to
Kayes with an answer, either way. When The shop rang Kayes the day before Kayes still couldn't give them an answer so he rang Gallagher to see why he hadn't called them. Gallagher told him to stop annoying him as he had more important things to worry about than going to some poxy shop.

Nice of him that. Never bite the hand that feeds you :deal

 

Interesting read.

So u will know Mikey J and his son Damion then will you?

 

Wouldn't be surprised if he was something to do with Gallaghers every1 knows there not eachothers biggest fans!

 

He's got a S&C an nutritionist who's going to stay with him for a week to help him get goin and hes got the help of Kerry and his CNP range aswell!

 

He hasnt trained anyone to world honours mate!atsch