Kessler-Bute: This is where the fight is at right now...

I hope with all this negotiating Bute doesn't take his eyes off the ball for his next fight (even if he does suck)

 

Compare Bute's resume with Kessler's

Kessler was WBA champ at 25 years old....

He's 11-2 in title fights....

Losing only to Calzaghe (arguably the best smw ever) and Ward (arguably the most talented smw today).. He traveled to both of their backyards...

He has wins over Beyer, Froch, And Mundine...

WTF has bute done that comes close?

fighting the likes of miranda, brinkley and mendy?

I think the fact that Kessler beat the living **** out of a prime andrade and was barley touched....

And Andrade KOed Bute and needed interbox help to keep his 0 tells us everything we need to know

 

What is your point?

If your saying that from now, Kessler have a better resume than Bute, I dont see anyone saying otherwise.

If your saying that if you had a good career you can choose whoever you want to fight, I dont have any problem against that and I dont think anybody does.

What we are saying (tell me if I'm wrong) is Bute tried to make the fight, Team Kessler says no... And with the last 2 years, Bute had problem making big fights because of the S6 and he is annoyed that he could not make the Kessler fight happening. Well, for me, I'm happy to hear that, it shows that Bute wish to fight the best.

So if your point is Bute has not yet face big enough fighter and he should, well, it's why Bute is reacting like that and so you should be happy to hear it as well.

 

What I'm saying is that Kessler has paid his dues in this sport. He's earned his respect, thats why people are ok with him picking and choosing fights

Bute has yet to prove himself. He is in no place to call people out, or make demands, or ask for hometown fights....

It seems some people are insinuating that kessler is "ducking" bute by taking on steiglitz.. I think thats bull****....

 

As I said, I have no problem with this decision. He may even dont feel good enough now to face Bute. Or he may want a belt to have a leverage. But I dont understand why Team Kessler lied to the press when it was easy to see that they never wanted to face Bute as his next fight.

 

We really dont know what was the offer. What we know, is Kessler decide to fight an orthodox fighter instead of a south paw. This decision was made weeks before the fight, so it's probably been weeks that team Kessler didnt want the next fight to be Bute, even before the offer Ibox gave Kessler's team.

I'm not saying Kessler is ducking, or is afraid or anything. It must be a business decision, but I think we can all understand Bute to be annoyed of this if he really wants to face the big names.

 

To the people saying 3 millions$ is low offer...you must be kidding ! Maybe Kessler can generate more but you clearly have no idea what kind of money is tossed around for the vast majority of such caliber fights.

Go take a look at how much HBO tosses around for non PPV fights of that magnitude.

IF Kessler can make much more, then great for him and he's one of the very few with Klitschkos, Alvarez,possibly Haye now and a few others than can hope for big bucks not necessarily fighting the best guys in the sport.

1-Normally, when you truly want something you make efforts to get it done. If I make you an offer and you think it's ridiculous but you seriously want to fight me, then you'll counter that offer to see if I truly want to fight you. It's called common sense !!

2-If I go to your city to generate interest for a fight with you, telling people I truly want to meet you and mention that I will most likely prepare in a tune up fight with the lefty in your stable, then I finally refuse him and instead of getting another lefty, I pick an orthodox fighter that has nothing to do with your style.... Common sense says that my actions certainly don't show the same desire to fight you than my words did !!

Why can't you people stop seeing **** like it's always either black or white ? How about sticking with facts without ******ed hate or a willful display of ignorance....

YES...Kessler has earned his right to be more selective than Bute but in this case, it doesn't change the fact that circumstances seem to show that he didn't want to face Bute in the fall. It doesn't make him a ducker or a loser or anything else. It just is what it is....

YES...Bute needs to fight the best available competition and if he doesn't keep making efforts to do, he will be held highly responsible and accountable for it !!

Interbox had already deals in the place in the past to match Bute in fights with Jermain Taylor in the USA (July-August 2009); Carl Froch in Nottingham (September 2009) and Kelly Pavlik in Atlantic City (July-August 2010).

We do know Bute wants to fight the very best or else he never would have made a deal with Showtime, even if it's well referenced that Showtime didn't want him initially in the Super 6 because INTERBOX wasn't part of the clique that Showtime was closer to.

WE also know that Interbox has a history of allowing their fighters to travel and it includes Bute with the deals that were put in place to fight in the States or Europe.

We also know that it's not their fault if Golden Boy Promotions decided to make Bute-Andrade II in Quebec because they love money too much and that was the only reason for making it in Quebec.

I just don't understand the constant hate in a fighter and distortioning facts and truth just to back up that hate... Why ? What's the point ? It's the psychological equivalence to denigrating others in order to raise your personal profile. Insecure little people.....

I like Kessler but if I ever have anything negative to say bout him, I certainly won't make it my every day duty to make comments against him like some of you do with Bute............

 

kessler needs to suck it up and go to canada....

 

Because Interbox had a clear case of robbery with Sauerland, the Lucas-Beyer fight, it 's normal that they are not hurried to go in Denmark.

Ask Froch if he want to fight an another time Kessler in his hometown?

At this time, we have no proof that Sauerland sent a counter-offer to Interbox , only a vague declaration, with no details, look like BS. If they find that 3 M is ridiculous, curious to see how they received for fighting Ward in Oakland. I think also that the lowball offer was BS.

Yes, I agree that Kessler has a better road, but who have the IBF belt?
It is normal that you have to travel if you want the belt.

Steiglitz looks like a bear with a honey jar in a cave and I think it will be very difficult to Sauerland to organize this one in Denmark. but if they have to travel and go in Germany, Kessler-Sauerland know that it will be more easy to win over Steiglitz than Bute.

No boxers are afraid to fight each other, OK, I agree but
some boxers and many promoters are afraid to lose because a defeat equals less money for the next fights.

So, I can understand that Kessler takes an easier road and at the same time, ducks Bute.

 

The IBF Champ VS the WBO champ, and then the winner gets the unification and superchamp-fight against the "Super6" winner!

fight the fight in Mexico or somewhere else then Canada and Denmark/Germany

Give Bute 3 M and Kessler 3 M

 

Again... It's a false debate.

Kessler's team decided to fight an orthodox fighter for his come back/tune-up fight instead of a southpaw. No negociation was involved. Bute's team gave an offer that wasnt answered. For sure they gave an offer fighting in Canada. When you start negociation, you dont start with 1$, you try a little bit more and the negociation start with that offer. Then if the fight is in the States or in Danemark, negociations and money will talk. In this case, no negociation took place and Team Kessler never wanted to fight Bute this year, so again, it's a false debate your trying to start.