Kessler: Calzaghe has glass chin compared to Andrade

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  1. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    firstly out of curiousity, what is the average person's rested heartbeat? i've heard super fit people have slower heart rates but not sure what to compare it to.

    secondly i think using his legs constantly will be kessler's key to victory. never get caught on the ropes. never let joe in close enough to tie one hand up while whaling away to body and head with the other. kessler will be moving even more than he was against andrade. stick and move. might not be the most exciting style to use in such a massive fight, but i really think that will be the way to throw joe off his game.

    not because he has to throw calzaghe off balance like he did against andrade but to simply frustrate joe who likes fighters who blindly gun for him. kessler isn't like that, and he definately is NOT like lacy.

    about lacy. i hope the calzaghe fans are not getting too in love with that performance. yes i was over the moon when joe outclassed the cocky limited fighter, but i was also expecting this because of the style matchup. im not that blind that i cannot see that kessler is a million light years different to the eubanks, brewers, sheikas, mitchells, lacys, and yes even veit types.

    you can have lots of talent and tons of championship experience and so on....

    but there comes a time when father time catches up with you.
    when jones meets his tarver. when mosley meets his forrest and so on.

    i win either way though lol.

    for joe he will be the best ever super middle if he wins. he wont even need to fight taylor or hopkins. those fights will simply be icing on the cake.

    if kessler wins (and i am backing him and also hope he wins) it will be better for the sport since he still has milage left in him to put on good shows and draw interest back to the sport. well at for the northern european markets. just like wladimir and co. have built up the germany and russian audiences. or manny pac has built up the south asian audiences. it is definately better for the long run. calzaghe win is good for only him. not that im complaining tho.

    :happy let's get ready to RUUUMMMBBBLLEEEEE!!!!!
     
  2. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Q I have an unusually low resting heart rate - with beats per minute in the mid-30s - and my doctor is a bit concerned about it. What is the normal range of resting heart rates for runners? And are there any problems associated with a low resting heart rate?

    A First, because endurance athletes have strong hearts, they generally have low heart rates. As an analogy, consider a bricklayer lifting bricks. If his arm muscles are strong from lifting lots of bricks, he can move 10 bricks with each lift rather than just two or three. Similarly, if your heart muscle is strong thanks to running, it has a higher stroke volume, which means that it can pump more blood with each beat than an untrained heart. It can also pump the same amount of blood in a minute using fewer beats. The average resting heart rate of endurance athletes is around 50-60 beats per minute. I've seen one report, though, of a healthy athlete whose resting pulse was only 25 beats per minute.
    Doctors who are familiar with athletes only get worried - and follow up accordingly - when a resting heart rate is lower than 30. But even this can be completely normal (and usually is) if the athlete is otherwise healthy. The slow heart rate indicates a strong heart, but this alone does not make you a better runner. There are too many other factors involved in running performance.
    Are there any problems associated with your low heart rate? Perhaps one. It does make you more vulnerable to anything that reduces the blood flow back to the heart, such as coughing or choking on food. This occurs because the reduced blood flow causes the heart to slow down even more, to allow more time for blood to enter the heart. And that can set off an involuntary nervous response that leads to fainting. Apart from this, provided that you have no other symptoms or complaints, your resting pulse should not concern you, or your doctor, unduly.




    Kessler is lying though.
     
  3. langshof

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    It's pretty good compared to you and me. But for an elite boxer it's normal. When Brian Nielsen Was at the peak of his so called career he had the exact same rate - 31. And he was a fat ****.
     
  4. langshof

    langshof Member Full Member

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    And Miguel Indurain (5x tour de france winner) had a rate of 29.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do they measure heartrate over 30 seconds instead of a minute in Denmark?
     
  6. bill poster

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    JCs age will show in this fight. If he wins, just one big payday and then retire please
     
  7. ChuckYoungblood

    ChuckYoungblood Active Member Full Member

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    I've had a resting heart rate at 45 (in my prime). 31 is elite in any form of sport, and I don't believe that Brian Nielsen had such low heart rate. But again it varies from person to person, so maybe he was blesssed with a heart bigger than his discipline.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look, in all seriousness, it's foolish as hell to underrate Calzaghe for any reason. All the great experts in the U.S. had Lacy destroying, just steamrolling poor fragile, overrated Calzaghe. One "expert" analysis, and prognostication after the other all predicted that Lacy, the Mike Tyson Incarnate, would roll over Calzaghe. The "Experts" only differed in what round the inevitable would happen. What resulted was not just a victory for Joe Calzaghe, but one of the most one sided, sustained, and dominant performances seen in years. Calzaghe is verging on his 10th year as champion and is just a few fights away from eclipsing the Great Joe Louis' title defense record. As good as Mikkel Kessler is, and I think he's an excellent fighter who can't miss being a major force in boxing for years to come. However that does not necessarily mean that he will defeat Joe Calzaghe. I guess everyone is counting on the Welshman to just fall apart suddenly any old time now. The "Experts" were saying that before the Lacy fight too.
     
  9. Rollo

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    He would easily beat Kessler, then.:hey
     
  10. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Dont kno what this quite means, please explain
     
  11. ChuckYoungblood

    ChuckYoungblood Active Member Full Member

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    That means your heart beat 31 times pr minute, when youre completely relaxed..
     
  12. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Sow at does that mean lol. Wat is the normal heart rate for some1 who is relaxed. Sorry for not knowing all the medical lingo. Im just tryin 2 understand
     
  13. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    who doesn't?
     
  14. henrik

    henrik fasthands Full Member

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    i know how kessler develop his skills up to any fight! and mikkel is use to box southpows he´s hole career,whith his sparringpartner in years:Mads larsen.
    I LNOW THAT JOE IS MORE AWKWARD TO FIGHT,But i think a LOT of you guys will be VERY surprised Nov.3....
     
  15. jammerdk

    jammerdk Member Full Member

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    :good