Kessler-Calzaghe September date in trouble

2 million on the undercard?? Who the **** is going to be fighting under
those 2 that would demand that kind of cheddar.?

 

**** man I'm American and this IS the fight I most want to see. Maybe we could set up something to let HBO know this is the fight the world wants. I don't know what Americans they've been asking, but I want to see this one!!

 

Noone can really blame the HBO. reality is that Warren/Palle have a product. HBO wants that product and have been screaming for them to make that product.

However, although the HBO clearly wants the fight - there is of course a price above which it will start to hurt. That is always the case. Even if I want a Ferrari - there is a price I can pay for it.

$3 mill seems ok to me. Not like a lot considering how many people could potentially get to to see the fight on HBO. So no 3 mill is not a lot, but on the other hand also not very unreasonable imo.

Let's just hope it is not a make it or break it criteria for the fight to go ahead.

Kessler should want the fight and Calzaghe's should want it even more because from a carrot point of view he gets a unique chance to become undisputed as the fight ever having had ALL belts and from a stick point of view his carreer will have far too many gaping holes of people he didn't fight if it doesn't come off - so both should be motivated to make it.

 

I think this situation also serves as a lesson on what happens when you hole yourself up in your home country, essentially telling HBO -- and American fans -- to go **** themselves.

Because at some point you're going to need them to make a mega-fight, and surprise, surprise, the interest -- and money -- isn't there.

I still think the fight will get made, but Warren, in particular, has made a career out of provincialism, and this is the downside of that. HBO loves the fight for its dedicated fans, but there's no sizzle to sell to casual fans, because no one knows who the **** these guys are.

Let's just hope everyone recalibrates their expectations to a reasonable level and it still happens. If a couple million dollars total destroys the fight, both sides will look very bad.

 

Shiiiittt. Enzo aint getting 1 mil for him or his opponent to split.
Warren was only offering haye 150k for a fight with macca.
And i know khan is moving at advanced stages, but half a mil.
No way.
Damn blocky. Maybe you should take over for warren, as your much more generous. But these figures ain't happenin'

 

I don't always agree with what you write, but this is a good post imo.

Cheers

 

no, warrens offer were "only" 5 mill and later turned into 3 mill!
they are pretty even when it come to whos to blame for this ****,
i know u are wery narrow minded when it comes to kessler and jc dear blocky. but u really have to stick to the facts, ok buddy?

 

I just don't ****in get it. 2 million or so dollars could stop the biggest ****in fight this year (or few years surounding), but somehow Ricky Hatton is able to offer 10 mil to PBF to come to UK. What am I missing here?

 

Glad to see you've reduced the undercard exspenses - they are still to high though - If it's in Denmark the undercard will cost ½M max!

Productionscost are also way way to high - at several shows in Denmark the productioncost has been 0. The way that have been done has been letting a major TV-company make the production in exchange for the rights to show the fight the day after - or just clips from it.

Promotion - 1,5M - seems way too high too

Venue-rent - if it's in Denmark it will be in Parken - and Parken entertainment will be co-producing the event - like Kessler-Andrade.

The estimates I've seen for this event speaks of 15-18M $

As for Palle's offer - it still stands - November in Denmark Calzaghe gets 5,5M. And if Warren choses to match this offer, then Kessler will come to England.

The HBO-problems aren't Palle's problems - that's Warren trying to get the fight to England in sept. As for as I can see it makes good sence - the fight will make around 2-3M more in England and all extra earnings will go to Warren/Calzaghe.

 

Luckyly Warren and Calzaghe has also missed that fact and is calling this fight Calzaghe's biggest fight ever...

But don't let "facts" get in your way

 

And that's the reason why the undercard will not cost more than ½M - there is no need for Kahn or Mac to sell this card - Only thing needed is the main event. A good undercard is only needed when the main event sucks - say Calzaghe-Manfredo!

 

Palle's offer still stands - 5,5M in november in Copenhagen. He hasn't backed down!

And even if he should do so, then Palm (not Palle) has offered to back the offer up - so if Calzaghe wants the 5,5M he can just accept and start training...

 

From what i read in the danish papers over the past days, it sems the ball is in warrens hands. Palle says that warren has some legal matters to attend to this week, and that he still expects they fight to be a reality.

My position on this fight has always been, that Palle and Warren has been coorporating much closer, and for much, much longer time than it would appear to the public. Andrade, Manfredo was not coincidental.

Blocky's PR estimates would be about right or to low, if palle,warren had had to pay for the amount of free hype up until now. Palle has been in this hustling business for ****ing 50 years. Warren are pretty clever too. This boy wants girl. Girl is shy but has a change of mind after holding the audience in emotional suspense for just a bit longer than they can stand. But boy gets girl in the end. everybody is happy. They are doing a prolonged "coitus interruptus" on us, and very well indeed.

They are working very close on this one. They are collegues. They are allies and they know they have to cooperate closely on this one. As they have done very well so far.

This is the pinnacle of their carreers. I am convinced that they are milking everything they can think of. This a big fight and with their combined skills they are going to hit the motherload. Seems they have agreed to partners on this one. 5,5 is a possible amount but propably less than 50% if they are smart. Nobody cares for homeadvantage this time. This is different. Everybody has enough to retire in comfort afterwards. Everybody will be happy winn or lose.

Calzaghe says max 3 more fights, Kessler has a bad back. Palle is old and sick, warren has joe for 2 or 3 figts more. Nobody cares too much about the outcome of the fight compared to the income in their pockets.

My personal guess is a repeat of the Beyer fight. This is the only logical outcome. Joe may struggle harder and better, but he will lose, save the lucky punch. Palle will be gone Joe will be gone and warren and mikkel will be left on the scene. Mikkel is a very likeable guy halfbrit he says. I bet Warren could sell him in the UK if he beats joe the right way. Denmark is not really the place to be for Mikkel anymore. He even lives in Germany. Says he gets distracted by the noise and interst in him. If he can't go to the US because of China promoted euro ignorance where should he go then if he wants the big money. With no palle in dk. what should mikkel then do, where should he go ?

 

Why cant Warren for once just get a deal done and forget about squeezing every last penny out of his cash cows. Unfortunately, we have years more of this nonsense to come with Amir Kahn.

 

oh get off kesslers dick for crying out loud, calzaghe isn't some c grade club fighter, this is not going to be an easy fight for either guy, and if kessler has more fans like you then you're all in for a huge shock.