Kessler-Calzaghe September date in trouble

Satyrrion is Danish (like me), but I think he is letting his heart do the writing here. I see the bookies have Calzaghe as a solid favorite now and imo. that is fair. Both are almost in a class of their own, but Joe has an edge in terms of experience. The new smart Joe of the last 3 years or so is a formidable opponent and we must not forget that Joe has not always fought smart. He has always been a great talent, but recently he has been fighting smart too and that has heightened his level to a point where he can seek bigger fights and does not have to worry about going life a death with a Reid-level fighter. Joe as of today would beat Joe as of 5 years ago (also Joe's own words) and he of course is no Beyer.

 

I agree a lot of questions are going to be answered - and I'm convinced the answers aren't going to go Calzaghe's way - but well we'll see.

However I don't think the question is what Kessler will do when Calzaghe takes out his jab - I think the question is very much - can Calzaghe do that well enough. Veit did connect time and again and everything Veit does Kessler does faster, more precis and more often - in term of jab. It is correct that a southpaw isn't a good jabbers favourite, but it's not like it can't be done. Kessler has sparred a lot with southpaws (mainly Larsen) and Beyer is also a southpaw and Kessler had no problems getting to him (I know he is no where near Calzaghe in class - just to show that southpaw-stance doesn't neutralise a good jab)

As for Kessler's footwork - it is above average by far - take a look at Kessler-Andrade - there Kessler had to use good footwork and did so. Most fights he doesn't have to do that - and doesn't.

As for Kessler's jab - it is the best jab in the world in the weightclasses from 160 and up. So it's not "just" a jab - it's the best.

Another question I look forward to getting answered is Kessler's inside abilities - from what I've seen in sparring he does it very well - I'd love to see that live

We know what Calzaghe can do - and he does it so well. In regards for Kessler there are lots of questions still - how good is he? - good enough to beat Calzaghe? - hopefully time will tell :good

 

Kessler does it well in sparring....

Kessler also does everything well in fights..

However, he has never sparred nor fought anyone like Calzaghe.

 

Maybe they'll both have to settle for less money than originally expected. I still want to see this fight, but I can see why the American mainstream/casual boxing fan isn't over enthusastic.

 

Laugh all you can, while you have time......Kessler will beat Calzaghe, no problems. Ask the bookies.

 

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Ok, What i am saying is the end result will the same as kessler-beyer howr the fight might be closer but the outcome is obvious.

 

Right, so the very clever and smart "NEW" joe is a freak of nature making him better at 35 than 30. His reflexes is slower, which is a medical fact, his hands are fragile his ko power is either gone or not used cause of handfragilty.

He did not impress me one bit against Bika, on the contrary, Reid is a long time gone, Bika is mediocre and not toptier. (Man)fredo was a nonevent and the only fight worth mentioning lately is Lacy. The Lacy I saw was a nobody, and it wasent just because joe was perfect.

Lot of joe fans makes comparison to kessler/lacy which is inconsequential.

Kessler is not a moodfighter like joe. He is in his prime AND he has met whoever was in his way and beat them VERY convincingly. He is bigger and harder punching and he can take a whack.

Kessler today is a lot more mature and focused than ever. He has been champ for a couple of years, enabling him to hire the best supportstaff and train more efficiently than ever. He has the dole for the perfect prefight infrastructure and training.

Age is an important factor in this fight as is wear and tear mentally and physically. Joe has fragile hands and he knows that, accordingly he has, or involuontarily will try to protect them from injury or have them broken.

But the good thing is that we will get an answer to these questions within the coming 6 months. If Joe really do win, fair and square, then all praise and kowtowing shall come to him. I dont have anything against him and actually like the guy enough, that I would be his nuthugger afterwards.

I just cant see him beat Mikkel. He is too strong, young, motivated and skilled.

 

Oh by the way, how come you refer to joe's experience as being superior. He hass 3 more fights than mikkel. But he has spend a lot more years getting them.

 

biggest thing deciding this fight IMO is who gets home advantage.

not sure why you say mikkel is to strong.

in which fight has mikkel ever won by using physical strength.
kessler likes to fight from range not in close pushing opponents around and off with his elbows or backing them up so he can get combo`s off on the inisde.

young, no denying it kessler is younger than calzaghe

motivated, ?calzaghe will be just as up for this fight .

skilled, what you see is what you like, imo calzaghe throws more combos from the inside and out, uses his fet can box on the outside and can box on the inside/uses angles upercuts/left hooks/right hooks/straight lefts/right leads/

technically kessler`s punches are much more correct and better delivered , but he has no where near the variety.

power, i think is a moot point.

kessler in his last fights has only put 2 opponents on the deck green , who took a 4 second delay before looking for a soft spot to land and beyer , nice shot but could have gotten back up.

if there was someone else kessler has put on the floor i missed it.

porras/thysee/lucas/siacca/theobola/mundine/andrade/

calzaghe scored about 7 knockdowns in a similar amount of fights, although the lacy knockdown was not legit.

even if kessler does knockdown joe during the fight IMO it would not lead to a stoppage, calzghe has shown his recuperative powers are instant.

they are about the same height/same speed with the jab/kesslr is more muscular, but all calzaghe`s opponents are.

i think the fight is close wheter in denamrk or uk , and like i said the home fighter with the crowd behind will sway the judges to the descion.

obvioulsy from my view i want calzaghe to win, but i see flaws in kessler`s style that calzaghe will take advantage and calzaghe is made to measure quite a few times in this fight more to the kessler right hand than the jab, as i see it.

calzaghe has a tendency to miss the left lead and fall across his opponent with his chin unguarded , but i think he will absorb the kessler shots when tagged.

 

Because he has been in more big fights (albeit less than he should/could have) which is the kind of experience that is relevant here.

I do think Kessler is good. Of course I do. But I did something that you may want to do... look at Calzaghe-Lacy and then with no break look at Kessler-Beyer.

There is a HUGE difference in pace and movement. Kessler moves like he weighs 300 pounds in that fight.

I am not writing Kessler off, but try to see those two right after eachother...ooch

 

I don't think we Kessler fans really need to worry about Joe performing that level again. But even against Manfredo Calzaghe's hands were a blur, though the movement wasn't quite so seamless as the Calzaghe fans are used to.

 

I predict an fairly easy win for Kessler.

The footmovement of Kessler is excellent. We saw that against Andrade. Against Beyer, he didn't have to move. Beyer had nothing that could hurt Kessler, so why run. Every time Beyer came forward, he got tagged. Yes, Calzaghe can dance around Kessler, but then he can't land anything. Calzaghe can't win this fight from a distance. Kesslers jab is to good and to fast. Calzaghe must get inside, and on the way in he will get tagged and Kessler will move away.

Calzaghe has better power than Kessler. No doubt about that, but it won't be the deciding factor. Kessler has enough power, and Calzaghe won't be able to land many combinations.

About experience there isn't really a difference. Calzaghe always avoided top fighters. He has only fought 2-3 top5 fighter, which is the same as Kessler. Kessler just did it recently. Experience against lower level fighters, which Calzaghe has plenty of, is worth nothing. Fighting bums won't make you ready for an elite fighter.

It will be something like 117-111 for Kessler.

The bookies have it around 58-42 for Calzaghe. There is good money to be won on Kessler.

The fight can easily generate more than 12 mill. $. If they decide for an arena bigger than the O2, they can generate a live gate way bigger than 5 mill. $. If they could sell 30.000 tickets for Manfredo, they can at least sell the same for Calzaghe. The live gate could go as high as 8-10 mill. $ (40.000 x 200-250 $ average). HBO may not want to pay 5 mill. as Warren is demanding, but something not much lower. PPV in Denmark alone will probably give at least 1-2 mill. $ (10-20.000 sales x 100$). TV in the UK will also pay a lot! Then the fight will be sold in 20-30-40 countries all over the world. So 15 mill. $ is absolutely within reach, probably more.

Jens

 

atsch this will not be an easy fight for either! my word you're in for a shock if this goes ahead.

:rofl :rofl :rofl calzaghe has more power than kessler??!!

 

kessler got the power and jc got the speed! non of them will be able to land many combos. this could go either way! hopefully it will be kessler winnin:happy

 

If you look at Kesslers knockout, then most of them come by outboxing his opponent. At junior middle he had great power, but now he only has good power. The knockouts come late in his fights, and several times the ref has stopped the fight where the opponents hasn't been floored.

When Calzaghe fought Lacy I predicted an easy win for Calzaghe. I couldn't see Lacy in Calzaghes league.

Calzaghe has a lot of the tools to beat Kessler, but I don't see him do it. Kessler proved against Andrade that he can handle a very aggressive fighter for 12 rounds without losing a round. Calzaghe is a way better boxer than Andrade (and he should at this time be considered the best at super middle ever), but those boxing skills he won't be able to use against Kessler as he can against other fighters. Calzaghe has a lot of different tactics, but fighting at a distance against Kessler is like fighting against the Klitschko at a distance: it won't work. Calzaghe needs to get closer. He has a lot of agility and good footwork, but Kessler moves just as well. Kessler will frustrate Calzaghe, but also take more shots than usual. But in the end
Kessler will win fairly easy.

Jens