Kessler-Calzaghe September date in trouble

I am speaking figuratively try and keep up, I know it must be difficult for you. Palle and Warren represent their fighters and to a smaller extent the countries of the fighters they promote.

Denmark, as represented by all the danes on this thread, look at Kessler as almost a national hero and they let HBO, american TV, dictate fight terms? I think that it is pathetic!

Can't Warren make this fight someow on sky TV or some closed ppv Euro channel? FFS go to germany at least they can make a fight. If I was these two guys I'd say **** the USA and make the fight some other way........BUT NOOOoOOOO let's call the fight off because USA's HBO has another fight close to the date.

Seriously grow a f'ing pair it is embaressing.

 

Go to a cycling forum and you will see hundreds of Americans overflowing with pride concerning Armstrong. Yet, the "let the French decide where Lance should ride in order to be seen as the world's best? Pathetic!"

Of course not. HBO was very vocal that they wanted this fight and now it is being made they should do their part. Regardless of nationalities.

And even if you want to stick to your story ... you can actually leave Palle and Denmark out of this completely. Warren is the one with a contract with HBO and he is the sole promoter of the fight as it stands now. So Palle is (and he said so) not part of figuring out where the money will come from. If Warren needs HBO to pay the involved parties then that is entirely up to Warren.

My oppinion is that since the HBO wants to buy the fight and Warren wants as much money as possible - it would be bad for all parties not to actually sell it to HBO as well.

 

Well, they are both on Secondsout p4p top ten and they certainly both belong there.

Let's just hope and pray it can actually be made.

 

Exactly! Eventhough I'm Danish, I almost stopped reading these Kessler-Calzaghe threads because of this stupid overconfidence in both camps.

I think a lot of this comes from the time, when the danish side were anxious about the fight being made at all - joe ducking Mikkel and so on. Now that the fight seems to be made, both sides can see that this is the right fight for both fighters, and whoever wins (if its undebatable), will be recognised as the true champ.

Kessler has never fully been tested, and an inspired Calzaghe will definately do that. Eventhough I think Kessler wins UD, I would like to see him perform under pressure.

Of course the winner of this fight should go on to fight the crop of the american fighters - Germaine, Winky or perhaps old man B-hop - and therefore HBO needs to broadcast it to the american public...

 

Clazaghe stopped 32 of 43 opponents which gives him a KO-percentage of 74,4. Kessler stopped 29 of 39 which gives him a KO-percentage of 74,4! They got the same. Math

Both fighters are for real, but Kessler is just more real. The only possible fraud in this mix-up is Warren

Jens

 

LOL... if you read my post again - you will see that I distinguish between TKO and KO - and if you then go to Boxrec you will see that Kessler has a far higher KO percentage than Calzaghe - who tends to "only" T K O his opponents.

Math right back at ya :good

 

Unfortunately, two of Ring magazine's #3 guys (Lacy & Tarver) would probably make them more money over here and since the European cable market is probably hypo-pacifists, we may not see a Palle/Warren closure. These could be made into good biuld-ups though.

 

And what is the difference between a KO and a TKO? It differs from country to country and over time. So a distinction is nonsense (unless you really believe that Calzaghe only knocked out two opponents as a pro). For example they have standing counting in Denmark, which means a lot of fights that would have been TKOs in most other countries is a KO as the ref counts to 10 instead of stopping it. Besides that almost all of Kesslers KOs came when he was fighting fighters smaller than super-middle.

Jens

 

I dont see any hazards for the fight to be made - FW and Palle just made an initial high demand on HBO - if they went for it - great - they didn't.

I am sure the deal will be settled at 3.5-4 mil.

To Blocky - why make an expensive undercard, when no one really cares for those fights(for this bout anyway)? Especially not if they may put the fight in jeopardy(not that I think that for one moment).

However the clock is ticking for the September date.

 

One difference I can quickly think of is Calz TKO Manfredo. That surely can't be looked at the same as a guy laying out not making the 10 count.:good

 

Joe's TKO's brought about by overwhelming his opponent with sheer volume is a more dependable way of stopping an opponent than reliance on landing a big punch.

 

Of course not, but I know that Jens is not a guy to say "ok, you're right" - there will be explanations for eternity why KO is exactly the same as KO - and the only difference is that in some countries they spell KO with a T. :yep

Seriously though - yes, many of Kessler's KOs came when he was lighter and younger, and yes some of the KO could maybe have been TKOs - but overall two things stand: There is (on average!) a difference between KO and TKO and secondly Joe hardly ever Ko anyone. And believe me it would have been scored a KO if Joe had scored a KO.

If there is a difference it clearly would show Kessler as the one with power, and not as you said that Calzaghe was more powerful. There is no evidence to support that.

But I honestly cannot imagine that you think there is evidence to show Calzaghe has more power - I think what you wanted to say is that Kessler will not win the fight on power like many people seem to believe - and if that is the case then I agree.

 

That may be true, but it is still a TKO at the end of the day. :good

 

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Same ole **** after same ole ****.

Any news on whether its actually happening? Why not put it in Ocotober if ya can't get September! Damn this is pissing me off

 

The only reason I can think of would be because they have scheduled September and November as two dates they want their fighters to fight. If CK cannot make the fight in Sept, then they will each fight someone else in Sept and then meet in Nov.

However, if they are just going to pass time playing computer games and going to Thailand on Holiday then I see no reason not to fight in October.

Well, except HBO may have something scheduled already for Oct and Team Palle's birthday is in Nov. :roll: