Kessler is poison

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by THN, Jan 3, 2009.


  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The burden of proof is on you, I'm afraid. And you failed to back-up your (and Kessler fan's) claims of a catchweight being a non-possibility. :good

    As I said, Kessler has no excuse for ducking Dawson, because a catchweight has not been ruled out.
     
  2. cdsimple

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    Not clearly, but he would be ahead. Its the same with Bute and Kessler. If Bute beats Froch, IMO, he will be the man at smw. If Kessler beats Bute, he will CLEARLY be the man at smw. I believe Froch is a easy win for all three, but he is also a very credible opponent.
     
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beating Froch does not make u the man. Kesslers already beaten better than Froch.
     
  4. cdsimple

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    Who?
     
  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I just posted you a bunch of quotes where Shaw specifies that a match against Kessler would be at 175.

    If, as you state, Dawson is happy to fight Kessler at a catchweight (despite the fact that he has never said so and his promoter has always specified 'at 175') and we know that Kessler said he would fight Dawson at a catchweight, how do you conclude that Kessler is the one ducking the fight?
     
  6. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Andrade & Mundine at the time IMO
     
  7. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if the governing bodies call it then that's your best shot.

    apart from that you haven't once told my what's wrong with my argument.

    you're still trying to justify a fighter who has beaten a great middleweight fighter against one who hasn't beaten a proven world class fighter.

    stop using rankings and belts to smokescreen this fact.
    i've already said this and i'm getting tired of repeating it.
     
  8. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fair question but at the same time - kessler's resume is a lot better than froch who hasn't really beaten anyone himself.
    andrade would do just fine against froch anyday.
     
  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Because Taylor beat Hopkins, he's no longer required to seek out the best opposition for the remainder of his career?
     
  10. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You failed to provide evidence that Dawson's team are unwilling to fight at a catchweight.

    Kessler's team, meanwhile, have clearly stated they are not interested in fighting Dawson, due to weight issues.

    I am not concluding anything, because the fight may yet one day happen.

    So far however, it is clearly Kessler's team that has shown the reluctance to fight, and it is (some of) his fans who defend this reluctance blindly.
     
  11. Blue145

    Blue145 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet you think that Froch deserves a fight against Taylor?

    All throughout the thread you keep saying Kessler doesn't deserve a shot at Taylor.. Answer me this, who does?
     
  12. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    are you saying that kessler, because he didn't beat calzaghe, that big names should chase after him the remainder of his career?

    name fighters don't come to you - you EARN it.
     
  13. cdsimple

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    Froch and Andrade would be a great fight, but there would not be a clear favorite. I would favor Froch over Mundine. I will put it like this, If Kessler defeats Froch, Froch would become the best name on his resume. Im not saying Froch is great, because I think he isnt that great at all, but he is just good enough, undefeated, and has a belt to be a great name on someones resume.
     
  14. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i never said froch deserves a fight against taylor - quote me.

    and you want to know who deserves a shot against taylor?

    anyone who is willing to take half the chances he did to make a name for himself.
     
  15. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i meant andrade would be a solid win on kessler's resume compared to what froch had achieved so far.