Kessler past it/ kessler was always ovverated

Kessler was never THAT great. Solid fighter in his weight division, yes...Pretty good champion, sure he is. But I wanna see the Kessler/Calzaghe crowd that hyped him to be the next Jesus Christ making ridiculous claims such as moving up and beating Adamek at CW and other ridiculous claims on how he would be "the man" at LHW. Now that its more than obvious that he CAN'T do any of those things, I wanna see what they say now.

 

He is very good and obviously one of the best in the division. No one is putting him on p4p lists or saying he is a legend.....

Hes just been fighting verrrrry good comp recently, no more eurobums for him :yep

 

Lose 1 fight against an olympic future great, and win a close fight against a undefeated very talented champ... And your either overrated or past it??? :nut

 

He was vastly overrated in the past.

Good fighter, not great. End of.

 

Kessler didn't look any different to me, he's good at what he does. I thought he looked as good as ever against Froch he's just fighting better opposition now so is not being flattered by inferior opponents.

 

I think he is on the slide. I don't think he was ever great, just a very good operator, but between all the fights and mounting injuries he is probably in the twilight of his career.

 

I don't really agree with either but I'd be closer to the over-rated idea.

 

Losing to Ward ain't no shame at all.... Neither is losing to Calzaghe who at the time was at his climax. But if Kessler, who many claimed to be a very great boxer with great skills, struggles with Carl Froch, who honestly lets be real, ain't really that great technically, how would Kessler do if he were to take that route his fans claimed he could succeed in?

Kessler isn't overrated, nor is he over the hill. Hes a good champion and a good fighter, but he was just overhyped and people expected too much out of him after the Calzaghe fight.

 

Biased ass poll. Wheres the "He's a great champion" option??

 

He was overrated by some..And he is slower then he once were so how can you choose???

Not overrated like Lacy, and while he is on the slide he is still good enough to beat Froch!?

His loss to Joe Calzaghe, his legal battle with Mogens Palle, and his backproblems has taken its tool..American media called Kessler a old 31 year old before the Ward fight. And they might be right.

 

Good thread :good

I think the Kessler we seen against Joe was Kessler at the absolute peak of his career in ability and mentally , for the pure'ists we seen Kessler before Joe , like you say the first time i laid my eyes on Kessler was Andrade and i remember thinking **** me Calzaghe has got his hands full with this fella ................. then he fought Calzaghe and the rest is history .

Anyhow i voted that Kessler was always over rated and the reason i think that is that he has that typical upright Euro style , he's a 1 , 2 fighter just like Pavlik except he fights a little better than Kelly on the inside with that signature right uppercut , overall i think you can make a point for both , in that the Kessler that fought Joe would of given any top SMW in any era a hard night , and todays Kessler just doesnt seem to be that monster who fought Calzaghe , i think the inactivity between Haussler & Perdomo really robbed Kessler of 11 months of his prime i really beleive that , and that should of been the time he fought the big names , cast your mind back to the Calzaghe fight and people were looking forward to seeing Kessler clean out the division after Joe announced he was moving up and it just didnt happen !!!!!!

Kessler's overall problem is that we just didnt see the best of him consistantly , the best he's looked on the big stage is Calzaghe and thats not enough to be considered a great considering he lost !!!! :bart

 

i'm going to go w/ neither here. he may be past his prime but "past it," meaning he's shot or can't cut it anymore....nah. as was pointed out in the fight, he isnt nearly as disciplined as he used to be nor is he as precise. for example:

* early on he was tossing a stiff jab out but he seemed to be dropping his hands when he did and wouldnt move his head at all and left himself open for Froch to counter. Nor was he following his jab up w/ anything upstairs.

* another one of tarver's better observations during the fight is that the counter right over the top of a left jab is a lost art but very very effective if utilized properly. froch is open for this because of how low his left jab comes from sometimes. taylor hurt him w/ the counter right. but kessler wasnt doing that either. kessler is usually a very effective counter puncher. not much of that saturday night.

* He was moving backwards in straight lines and wasnt moving his head a all.

* He was looping a lot of shots that he never used to and wasnt snapping off a straight 1-2 despited the fact it that Froch was there for it a lot.

this is all correctable. he was sloppy saturday night when compared to what we are used to seeing from him. but, he obviously has a lot to build off though.

* he went to the body very impressively and was punishing froch by froch's own admission.

* he still has the stamina to slug it out for 12 rounds. even if you want to point out that he hit air a lot...loading up and swinging and missing takes more out of you than loading up and connecting.

* he still has the heart and the want to, to dig deep and go to war in the championship rounds of a fight despite being badly cut against a very strong willed opponent.

* he did hurt froch w/ a short, crisp right hand when froch was coming in, so as far as the right goes that we are all used to from kess...its still there.

he just has to make an effort to be more disciplined. he won't win a rematch w/ ward fighting like he did against the cobra. i would bet it would look a lot like the first fight. but again, what he's doing (or not doing) is correctable.

 

"i'm going to go w/ neither here. he may be past his prime but "past it," meaning he's shot or can't cut it anymore....nah. as was pointed out in the fight"

Thats why the result wont be truthful..

 

He beat Froch...something a guy who beat an undefeated Abraham couldn't do....this poll is bogus...Kessler is an excellent fighter.